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A friend of mine added 5 new pair of stock birds to his lofts about 6 weeks ago. He kept them seprate from his birds For three weeks.

Since introducing them into his lofts Wet droppings have appeared and is now out of control .He did try Colimule but does not seem to be working.

The droppings look like pure water with a little brown stick thats what they look like. Some birds are begining to losse weight, its a bit worrying

Does anyone have any ideas or other remedies he could use Thanks

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A friend of mine added 5 new pair of stock birds to his lofts about 6 weeks ago. He kept them seprate from his birds For three weeks.

Since introducing them into his lofts Wet droppings have appeared and is now out of control .He did try Colimule but does not seem to be working.

The droppings look like pure water with a little brown stick thats what they look like. Some birds are begining to losse weight, its a bit worrying

Does anyone have any ideas or other remedies he could use Thanks

 

I would give them a canker tablet and some probiotics and see if that clears them up, but it could be the early sings of paramixo!

Guest strapper
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A friend of mine added 5 new pair of stock birds to his lofts about 6 weeks ago. He kept them seprate from his birds For three weeks.

Since introducing them into his lofts Wet droppings have appeared and is now out of control .He did try Colimule but does not seem to be working.

The droppings look like pure water with a little brown stick thats what they look like. Some birds are begining to losse weight, its a bit worrying

Does anyone have any ideas or other remedies he could use Thanks

 

 

i suspect either the birds have had paramyxo and these droppings are after effects or are going through it. heres the picture i think your describing.

they are most probably drinking more water and the actual description of these droppings are caused by slight failure in the kidneys.

 

pm me if you need advice...

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Guest strapper
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forgot to mention ...i would get in touch with a good pigeon vet for diagnosis and treated asap b4 any further outbreaks appear.

 

vaccination maybe needed for birds that do not appear to be affected by this.

Guest bluemorning
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you can get a test kit i think from bird health its about £13.00 contains tube for droppings sample and a swab for the mouth you post it and then they phone you with results.contact them they may have a retailer near you so you could pick one up,used one myself two years back sorted me out in no time.

Guest bluemorning
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you can get a test kit i think from bird health its about £13.00 contains tube for droppings sample and a swab for the mouth you post it and then they phone you with results.contact them they may have a retailer near you so you could pick one up,used one myself two years back sorted me out in no time.

 

 

sorry its pigeon health

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If it is PMV. a droppings test won't diagnose the problem,a blood sample will have to be taken.What part of the Country are you in mate.

 

Lindsay

North East Scotland

Guest pigeondave
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have they ever been vaccinated with them been stock birds.and the stress of going too a new loft doesnt help.just hold tight let the weak go and the strong pull through,

Guest strapper
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if the droppings are a puddle of water with a stick like appearance in them its paramyxo.!

Guest strapper
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its streppycocci mate use theraprim to get rid of it 5 days

 

i think your find he described the droppings as wet with a stick like appearance in them a distinct feature of paramyxo as my pic above describes it....streppi is Diarrhoea like droppings...with salmonela like symptoms.

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i think your find he described the droppings as wet with a stick like appearance in them a distinct feature of paramyxo as my pic above describes it....streppi is Diarrhoea like droppings...with salmonela like symptoms.

streppy same as mate

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i think your find he described the droppings as wet with a stick like appearance in them a distinct feature of paramyxo as my pic above describes it....streppi is Diarrhoea like droppings...with salmonela like symptoms.

 

could you maybe give us an example of both ??

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i would treat this with baytril, for a week then natural yogart,

then get them jagged then 2weeks before paring up on a course of

parastop, for 10 days, followed by minerals and vits,

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vaccinate them anyway as it takes a while to spread though the loft if some start dying it might save some

 

if its not pmv the vaccination wont do them any harm anyway

 

you dont need the the twisting of the heads etc to have full blown pmv

 

 

what is there water intake like :emoticon-0138-thinking:

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They need to be seen by a vet

 

:emoticon-0179-headbang: :emoticon-0179-headbang:

 

If it is PMV (and I personally think that is the most likely)

 

antibiotics will not help a virus (only if they have secondary infections). If they are all old birds - then the sooner they are 'supported' through this the better. Old birds can recover - they will be losing a lot of nutrients by over drinking and need some support (Vetrelyte etc)

 

it would be cheaper to see a vet than buy any of the stuff recommended by the 'don't know I'm only guessing brigade' who are recommending various antibiotics that legally can only be prescribed by a vet anyway

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vagin never said birds were stubbling about or twisting theyre necks so dont think its paramyxo more chance streppi being put into new enviroment and most vets in scotland wouldnt know anyway but to be safe jag them jmo

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http://www.pigeonclinics.com/default.asp?ContentId=1745&LanguageId=44&MainProductId=106&st=1&pt=Streptococ%2Dcoli%2Dcure

 

These Van Der Sluis treatments have a really good name.Have a look on here,if you get the birds tested ask which of these products would be suitable to treat with.

One of the downsides of starting to use these kinna antibiotic based products though is once you start you will probably have to continue.

 

Hope you get it sorted though

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