Guest KING BILLY Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 it seems to me that there is no democracy left in the pigeon game its not the hawks rader or whatsowever that is destroying the sport it is pigeon men themselves with the bickering and back stabbing that goes on if a fed or club have a democratic vote then abide with that vote dont go and look at ways to over turn the vote of the people who are prepared to go to meetings and cast there vote so just accept the vote of the majority and get on with racing your pigeonsi dont no you tyson but to me your the only one talking sens about this long winded afair the sunshines east the sunshines west but i no whare the sunshines best lol
tyson Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 thanks for the comment king billy I am at present race controller for midlothian fed also one of the controllers for the s.n.f.c as far as biga is concerned he should stick his commemts up where the sun dont shine
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 danny do you think that newmains give this hut for meetings for nothing,i am sure newmains flying club are paid for the time you are in the hallrobin the lanarkshire should not be using it, it is a fire hazard and it is not insured to have 450 guys in it, simply reallyand should they have a well attended meeting they would be half way down the road in a line, to wards the war monument. so if the hall can only hold what ever it is insured for, and i would like to think it was, for 40 people, but having up to 150 in is asking for trouble, as there no fire escapes. this is the scenario right, the hall holds max 150 Pilgrims your in that tight that when you put yer hand down you are in some one else's pocket, now put a rigged vote in there 80 guys trying to swing the vote that's all that is needed to guarantee a result, like only 3 clubs from the 21 clubs, they are all in there early doors, the meeting is then corrupt, as there will never be a defeat in there vote, so you can see it is not very democratic at all, as mob rule is stating where you are going, BUT if the lanarkshire provides a hall to suit all its members, as it should, then the rigged mob cant have the same guarantee, they cant, control the floor. and on that, and on the grounds of that, there could be a extraordinary meeting called, simple really, dont P*** down members legs and then say its raining. so the federation has to decide are they giving a fair deal to its members, providingor are they, encouraging rigged voting. or is it just a oversightthat should be addresses pronto like.bigda here for the under dogs.
jonl6280 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 votes been cast , decision made, final
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 votes been cast , decision made, finalcant say its final as the members will decide.we have till april
jonl6280 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 no reason for a re-vote as the members knew about the meeting for a full year, if they cant be bothered going then its final. the members did decide !!!! west
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 no reason for a re-vote as the members knew about the meeting for a full year, if they cant be bothered going then its final. the members did decide !!!! westif the fed cant provide a big enough hall, its encouraging cheating. simple.its there resposability to provide for its members
lanarkshire lad Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 What about the young birds Jim?? if i remember rightly there was only 6 members that went to Thirsk and Otterburn from Uddingston which is the second strongest club in Lanarkshire and this a club that took 1500 rings at the start of the year. Losses must have been really bad in the first 4 races for so little members to send even from Otterburn at 88 miles. Truth be told the Uddingston members are needing to get of there backside and attend the fed meetings, for the last 5-6 years the only one your guaranteed to see from Uddingston is Davie McCaig.Gareth theres still plenty doos left in uddingston make no mistake about that,i think theres a few different reasons for the poor turnout at the last two races and heavy losses isnae one of them.The yb programme this year was fair for returns and dont forget it isnae everybody that wants to race there ybs to the bitter end.
DJWa Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 cant say its final as the members will decide.we have till april why not use hamilton football ground next year dannyall stand on the pitch or in the stands and voteno overcrowding only thing is you might get wet and be a bit cold how many do you think would turn up????
tyson Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 bigda give it a rest man accept the vote that was cast by the members who took the time to go to the meeting you had no intention of going to the meeting as your were at a fitba match so stop talking so much P***
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 bigda give it a rest man accept the vote that was cast by the members who took the time to go to the meeting you had no intention of going to the meeting as your were at a fitba match so stop talking so much P***this is not about big da, this is about the feds responsibilities towards its members, if you cant see it is illegal, that's your problem,one man one vote and have a seat made available, no matter if 10 turn up.
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 why not use hamilton football ground next year dannyall stand on the pitch or in the stands and voteno overcrowding only thing is you might get wet and be a bit cold how many do you think would turn up????yes that is a very sensible answer, and it will be a-legit venue
Roland Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 why not use hamilton football ground next year dannyall stand on the pitch or in the stands and voteno overcrowding only thing is you might get wet and be a bit cold how many do you think would turn up???? Aye good idea. Held at half time, then Bigda and co could watch the footie and have a vote :egyptian: Oh that would be nae gid either.... Bigda and co would say Wrong pitch, and they were ******* supporters and went there instead lol. I'd wager a tenner that you's fly West next seasn. And another tenner the year after that and so on. Done and dusted and will be a very long time for another change to even be considered. Can see many opositions and arguements why it should stay the same then... West forever lol :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0123-party:
jonl6280 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 this is not about big da, this is about the feds responsibilities towards its members, if you cant see it is illegal, that's your problem,one man one vote and have a seat made available, no matter if 10 turn up. if all the members turned up at the tiny meeting hall , then it could have been done outside!!
Guest WINGS 04 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 cant say its final as the members will decide.we have till april Danny so would you stilll wanting a vote if it went east at the agm and if there is a vote to try an change the race point then there would be the end of the race agm and the mob would have won as they would be going east and f..k the members that want to go west or should they just get out the fed and I now that members of your club voted to go west that went to the meeting
Henrik Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 this is not about big da, this is about the feds responsibilities towards its members, if you cant see it is illegal, that's your problem,one man one vote and have a seat made available, no matter if 10 turn up.There,s nothing Illegal about it, meeting was properly convened with the appropriate notice given, you only want sumthng to open your Big-Gub about, end of the day you,ll prob only go to the first 2 or 3 races anyhow. Why dont ya just get some tipplers or would they go too high for you
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 There,s nothing Illegal about it, meeting was properly convened with the appropriate notice given, you only want sumthng to open your Big-Gub about, end of the day you,ll prob only go to the first 2 or 3 races anyhow. Why dont ya just get some tipplers or would they go too high for youHENRIK your the type of guy i can see right through, but it takes others, to look into your ears to see there is nothing, there, and they are able to pass a towel from one end to the other with out touching, skin.
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 Danny so would you stilll wanting a vote if it went east at the agm and if there is a vote to try an change the race point then there would be the end of the race agm and the mob would have won as they would be going east and f..k the members that want to go west or should they just get out the fed and I now that members of your club voted to go west that went to the meetingif the vote was held at a place every year, big enough to accommodatethe size of the federation, that way there would not be any chance of a mob rule, on proposals. and as you can only get, 150 or so many into the newmains hut, they choose making it in there,its a ideal place to manipulate the venue, as you and i know you only need 80 guys on your side ,to push the vote in your favour, the fed agm is held before the clubs agm which should not be the case, as there are guys able to vote for next years races, but have not paid there subs.as yet
Guest WINGS 04 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 if the vote was held at a place every year, big enough to accommodatethe size of the federation, that way there would not be any chance of a mob rule, on proposals. and as you can only get, 150 or so many into the newmains hut, they choose making it in there,its a ideal place to manipulate the venue, as you and i know you only need 80 guys on your side ,to push the vote in your favour, the fed agm is held before the clubs agm which should not be the case, as there are guys able to vote for next years races, but have not paid there subs.as yet[/ Danny this is not the fed agm it's the race program agm
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 if the vote was held at a place every year, big enough to accommodatethe size of the federation, that way there would not be any chance of a mob rule, on proposals. and as you can only get, 150 or so many into the newmains hut, they choose making it in there,its a ideal place to manipulate the venue, as you and i know you only need 80 guys on your side ,to push the vote in your favour, the fed agm is held before the clubs agm which should not be the case, as there are guys able to vote for next years races, but have not paid there subs.as yet[/ Danny this is not the fed agm it's the race program agmYES it should be clubs that decide it then when they have there agms, and the fed anounce the result of the in house vote and when the club get told they are flying east or west then they make up the program from a list of race points the majority votes are then counted and agreed thats where we go simple, no rigging envolved.
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 if all the members turned up at the tiny meeting hall , then it could have been done outside!!they might do things like that in and about ibrox, but we do have a bit, of class here in the lanarkshire i hope
jimmywylie Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 ame='WINGS 04' date='22 October 2011 - 22:02 PM' timestamp='1319317357' post='692874'] YES it should be clubs that decide it then when they have there agms, and the fed anounce the result of the in house vote and when the club get told they are flying east or west then the make up the program from a list of race points the majority votes are then counted and agreed thats where we go simple, no rigging envolved.spot on danny
Guest bigda Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 spot on dannythank you jimmy, as you can see we have the dog in the manger issue here, some want to lie in the hay, but will not let any one eat the hay.
Guest WINGS 04 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 thank you jimmy, as you can see we have the dog in the manger issue here, some want to lie in the hay, but will not let any one eat the hay. Danny let just ge on with it we are flying west this year see you and all your club members at the agm all he best rab
tiger Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 well done danny you've got everyone jumping Thur hoops
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now