Improvement In Our Sport

[budgie]

What changes do you think are required to improve our sport and what would you like to see . If tomorrow you had to start again where would you go for stock to achieve success?

Edited September 7, 2011 by budgie

[dal2]

A universal ETS system made more affordable!

More sophisticated weather aids for libs!

Stock, best my pocket would take, from a proven racer at the same distance as I wanted tae fly!

[OLDYELLOW]

The one thing that needs to change is the backstabbing and more clubs and feds coming together but fanciers are there own worse enemy's , I also believe fanciers shouldn't be refuse entrance to a club unless a defaulter . If I had to restock I think I'd pick individual birds rather than a family of birds

[alec guinness]

What changes do you think are required to improve our sport and what would you like to see . If tomorrow you had to start again where would you go for stock to achieve success?

 

togetherness and backing the top table. :) as for stock 500-600 milers required would look at the section i was in the national and go to the top guys.

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

I would like to see more direction from our unions.A move to more midweek racing at least with y/b.

Some for of qualification created in both weather forcasting and reading the weather for controllers.

 

I also think unions, should create a course on pigeon keeping, good practices, which can be used in order to get some kind of standards brought into one loft racing.

 

Sorry to go on but you did ask.

 

A round of eggs from someone who is on the fed results, most weeks.

[geordie1234]

ETS thats cheap enough for everyone to buy!

 

Less Feather merchants

 

Bigger money races (just look at the chinese)

 

Stock would have to be from proven west sect fanciers so quite a few

[Walter swanston]

1.Flexibility in the race programmes so that they are not carved in stone.

 

2.Small clubs joining together there is strength in numbers

 

3.Federations managed and controlled by younger men with a passion for this sport.

 

4.Controllers and convoyers given support withoout needless criticsim.

 

5.Co-operation and dialogue between federations so that they can join together and save money.

 

6.Contact with Unikon and Tauris about the price of ETS rings.

 

7.Contact with RSPB about the hawk problem

 

8.Federations should have more frequent contact with SHU think about committee meetings through computers or video.

 

Hows that for a start? I am prepared to spend the winter engaging fanciers on these and similiar matters

[yeboah]

1.Flexibility in the race programmes so that they are not carved in stone.

 

2.Small clubs joining together there is strength in numbers

 

3.Federations managed and controlled by younger men with a passion for this sport.

 

4.Controllers and convoyers given support withoout needless criticsim.

 

5.Co-operation and dialogue between federations so that they can join together and save money.

 

6.Contact with Unikon and Tauris about the price of ETS rings.

 

7.Contact with RSPB about the hawk problem

 

8.Federations should have more frequent contact with SHU think about committee meetings through computers or video.

 

Hows that for a start? I am prepared to spend the winter engaging fanciers on these and similiar matters

Very good post Walter with a lot of common sense points ,sadly common sense is something that is sadly amiss in our Sport.

[frank-123]

in my own fed scrap the clubs have central marking for every race have 5 sections each with a new club for marking

imagine a super club with a 80 members all wanting to win the race and you could be flying for good pool and prize money

run it like a business to make profit which could be ploughed back into the sport

 

forgot to add if i wanted better stock i would go to the person who has been winning and is still winning

[Walter swanston]

in my own fed scrap the clubs have central marking for every race have 5 sections each with a new club for marking

imagine a super club with a 80 members all wanting to win the race and you could be flying for good pool and prize money

run it like a business to make profit which could be ploughed back into the sport

 

forgot to add if i wanted better stock i would go to the person who has been winning and is still winning

 

Excellent idea Frank I would be happy to introduce and support such an proposal in my own federation.I can also well imagine the howls of protest.Things have got to change and modernise to keep pigeon racing alive.

[cemetary]

wane owe the biggest problem us doo men have is the BOP.

 

We need the help from everyone to help us, that will improve the biggest thing in the decline of the sport, everything can take care of itsself. JMO.

[frank-123]

Excellent idea Frank I would be happy to introduce and support such an proposal in my own federation.I can also well imagine the howls of protest.Things have got to change and modernise to keep pigeon racing alive.

 

you could also have league's in your club for promotion and relegation

[just ask me]

you could also have league's in your club for promotion and relegation

 

 

have said this a few times frank its just nor fair that someone knew comes into a big club and gets slaughted by experienced people in our sport

 

also be good to see our unions really step up to trouble makers

[airdrie2]

PIGEON MEN AND WOMAN to get on with each other and stop all the snipes at each other

feds talk to each other regarding libs ect

unions to get together reg hawk probs and spread message about the sport to encorage people to the sport young and old

pressure ets companies to get price down

new members encoraged in the sport

 

stock keep doing what we are doing but cut down the numbers

 

that all for now

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

What changes do you think are required to improve our sport and what would you like to see . If tomorrow you had to start again where would you go for stock to achieve success?

Each of the 3500 SHU members to pay an additional £10.00 per year for two full time Promotional officers, one covering the west/south and the other covering the east/north.

 

The promotional Officer duties would include.

 

Schools - educting the children on the positives of the sport, it might be 10 years before they get involved but at least they would have a back ground knowledge unlike the present adults of the country.

 

Councils and govermental depts - communicating and building up a relationship with all these depts, first off would be making allotments available for new members within the sport this would be on a annual rental basis.

 

Tax all sales of pigeons and supplies- these profits to go back into kitting out new starters (any age) with lofts, clocks etc this on a rental basis, basically they could walk straight into the sport without any costs or fees, this at least would be for the first couple of years.

 

Saleman approach -Hand out flyers at prime locations inviting men and women who know nothing about the sport to attend a seminar which would be local to them, there it would be offered to them a no cost start up package as described above. These prime locations for example could be supermarkets and train stations where 1000's of people use on a daily basis.

 

 

There can be no more half measures, its the last chance because within the next 10 years we will be down from 3500 members to just over a 1000 members, at that stage it would definitely be too late to do anything at stopping the decline in our sport. There are new members out there but they have to be informed about the sport.

 

Please no one come back and say....................

 

I cant afford £10.00 .

 

I dont want the sale of any of my pigeons to be taxed.

 

Feeding will get dearer if its taxed.

 

Its too late as the sport is doomed already .

[Walter swanston]

Each of the 3500 SHU members to pay an additional £10.00 per year for two full time Promotional officers, one covering the west/south and the other covering the east/north.

 

The promotional Officer duties would include.

 

Schools - educting the children on the positives of the sport, it might be 10 years before they get involved but at least they would have a back ground knowledge unlike the present adults of the country.

 

Councils and govermental depts - communicating and building up a relationship with all these depts, first off would be making allotments available for new members within the sport this would be on a annual rental basis.

 

Tax all sales of pigeons and supplies- these profits to go back into kitting out new starters (any age) with lofts, clocks etc this on a rental basis, basically they could walk straight into the sport without any costs or fees, this at least would be for the first couple of years.

 

Saleman approach -Hand out flyers at prime locations inviting men and women who know nothing about the sport to attend a seminar which would be local to them, there it would be offered to them a no cost start up package as described above. These prime locations for example could be supermarkets and train stations where 1000's of people use on a daily basis.

 

 

There can be no more half measures, its the last chance because within the next 10 years we will be down from 3500 members to just over a 1000 members, at that stage it would definitely be too late to do anything at stopping the decline in our sport. There are new members out there but they have to be informed about the sport.

 

Please no one come back and say....................

 

I cant afford £10.00 .

 

I dont want the sale of any of my pigeons to be taxed.

 

Feeding will get dearer if its taxed.

 

Its too late as the sport is doomed already .

Good enough idea Gareth a lot of merit in promotional officers but enormous care would be rquired in their selection as they would inevitable be seen as the public face of pigeon racing in Scotland.Probably we would be better with a complete ousider for such a position.By the way should the SHU not be playing a more pro active part in all this

[geordie1234]

in my own fed scrap the clubs have central marking for every race have 5 sections each with a new club for marking

imagine a super club with a 80 members all wanting to win the race and you could be flying for good pool and prize money

run it like a business to make profit which could be ploughed back into the sport

 

forgot to add if i wanted better stock i would go to the person who has been winning and is still winning

Very good idea Frank, think that would really make a differance and exiting lso the chance to bring home a decent wedge of pool money

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

All good points, however as i have argued, why has S.H.U not promoted such projects.Lack of leadership.

Why not get members of P/B to form a committee, in order to examine the thoughts and feelings of members,about the way forward Gareth is right when he spells out the doom and gloom of the future of our sport.its up to us to do something about it.If wedon'tt get off our butt soon it will indeed be to late.

 

More than happy to be part on such a Committee,presenting the findings and proposals to S.H.U in order to get the feelings of the member over in a quest for change that will at least try and change the tretowardrdr oblivion.

 

One other good point is, over my 40 years in the sport, it has been hard to argue Just who are the top fanciers. The leuge system will go a long way to telling you who is top dog in each area.It is by far the best measuring stick to use. While helping new starts get in at a fair level.