Race Controller

[REDROCKET]

with all the moaning about the race controlling and every decision the man makes being wrong why dont we make a rule that every race the birds will be liberated at 8am rain hale or snow that means you will have to be responsable for checking the weather reports and decide how many and what birds your prepared to send ie good race conditions big team bad race conditions small team ? no hold overs unless extremely bad weather this means less expence and not to many slagging matches.

[OLDYELLOW]

I believe a pigeon can make it through any conditions , there's always a few that make good times , remember the 98% rule only a handful will ever be winners no mater how well bred they are , in simple terms if you don't like the conditions don't send or watch the results in hard conditions and try to get the best hard day birds you can get , in racing having the fastest birds doesn't always give you hard day birds you need both in your loft , Janssen based and sootgen pigeons are great on hard days and also fast birds I let two strays up in light drizzle last weekend even worse down the country with mist and they both made it back , quite simply if pigeons are good enough they will do the job a head too many paper birds out there they simply absorb the water and fall to bits when the going gets tough . The biggest motivation anyone can give there birds is love of home they don't get that from been hammered down the road in all states of tiredness , watching your birds at home flying around loft tells you exactly what there fitness levels are , tired birds exercised miles from home are only feeding the countless bops on route Just the way I see it if there good enough healthy enough fitness and form comes with good management and love of home is the thing most knock out of ybs , there only young birds for a few short months and there the future of your loft luck after them

[OLDYELLOW]

Race controllers do a thankless job , If not happy with them vote them out or choose to be a fair weather flyer and pick and choose your races

[Walter swanston]

Race controller is arguably the most important and responsible job in pigeon racing and anyone brave enough to take it on has to accept that his decisions are going to be examined in minute detail by his fellow fanciers many of whom do not have acess to the detailed weather information and geographical knowledge of racepoints and contact with other federations that the controller has. If a federation can find a good controller he is well worthy of hanging onto .The Solway Federation has an excellent controller who has proved his worth on many occasions over the years.

[Roland]

with all the moaning about the race controlling and every decision the man makes being wrong why dont we make a rule that every race the birds will be liberated at 8am rain hale or snow that means you will have to be responsable for checking the weather reports and decide how many and what birds your prepared to send ie good race conditions big team bad race conditions small team ? no hold overs unless extremely bad weather this means less expence and not to many slagging matches.

 

Absolutely brilliant. A first class post!

I'm all for that!

Mind some here want the race controller to have power - which was voted in - to veto a race the following Saturday if weather looked iffish!

Have release in fog, storms and what not and returns been good from training 60 miles... And seen very detrimental returns when released in fine sunny and clear blue skies...

[Babybird]

with all the moaning about the race controlling and every decision the man makes being wrong why dont we make a rule that every race the birds will be liberated at 8am rain hale or snow that means you will have to be responsable for checking the weather reports and decide how many and what birds your prepared to send ie good race conditions big team bad race conditions small team ? no hold overs unless extremely bad weather this means less expence and not to many slagging matches.

 

That would be a disaster having all the birds up at the same time, what about clashes?

[REDROCKET]

That would be a disaster having all the birds up at the same time, what about clashes?

what about clashes dont think for a minute there's not clash as it is there's feds racing from north to south and east to west

ps mine do both in every race lol, and for timing so to miss the clash sometimes there,s hours between your first and last birds

also i was refering to lanarkshire..

[Tony C]

What did they do before mobile phones come about?

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

with all the moaning about the race controlling and every decision the man makes being wrong why dont we make a rule that every race the birds will be liberated at 8am rain hale or snow that means you will have to be responsable for checking the weather reports and decide how many and what birds your prepared to send ie good race conditions big team bad race conditions small team ? no hold overs unless extremely bad weather this means less expence and not to many slagging matches.

Pritty drastic Steven, don't think there is a need for this, all that is needed is to have a race controller that doesn't think he is God, if the fed book has a race program then this should be adhered to, not have someone that lacks backbone and brings them closer to home at the slightest breeze or spit of rain. JMO

[Henrik]

Pritty drastic Steven, don't think there is a need for this, all that is needed is to have a race controller that doesn't think he is God, if the fed book has a race program then this should be adhered to, not have someone that lacks backbone and brings them closer to home at the slightest breeze or spit of rain. JMO

Just need a rule saying the birds dont get moved until the Sunday.

[Roland]

what about clashes dont think for a minute there's not clash as it is there's feds racing from north to south and east to west

ps mine do both in every race lol, and for timing so to miss the clash sometimes there,s hours between your first and last birds

also i was refering to lanarkshire..

 

Clashing... No such thing, just a lame crutch for loss of birds. Ok if stagger libs, it would be not much different.

Don't know about controllers not thinking they are gods... or then having the balls. Think they should be annominous and have cotton wool inside ear plugs.

Smashes and losses occur in any and every climate, and array of liberations. No two ways about that... so don't ever release bird eh!

Think that the first moaners should be the race committee for the following year personally lol.

[walterbmasson]

Just need a rule saying the birds dont get moved until the Sunday.

 

henrik decisions are made afore birds go away your absolutly right there is not a man or woman forcaster can tell what the weather is going ta be in a feckin hours time instead o twa days even watching satelite map weather changes in a matter o; a ; hour ;;;;;;;;;;; wait and see if you get a chance before jumping the gun

[sammy]

Pritty drastic Steven, don't think there is a need for this, all that is needed is to have a race controller that doesn't think he is God, if the fed book has a race program then this should be adhered to, not have someone that lacks backbone and brings them closer to home at the slightest breeze or spit of rain. JMO

think yir being a bit unfair here gareth ,and maybe just maybe if yi dig a BIT DEEPER YI WILL FIND THE REAL REASON FOR BEING BROUGHT CLOSER TO HOME

OR ARE YI WAITING ON BIGDA SPILLIN THE BEANS

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

think yir being a bit unfair here gareth ,and maybe just maybe if yi dig a BIT DEEPER YI WILL FIND THE REAL REASON FOR BEING BROUGHT CLOSER TO HOME

OR ARE YI WAITING ON BIGDA SPILLIN THE BEANS

Have heard the nonsense regarding the haulage company, but that was not the reason for the Thirsk blunder, and if it was or ever has been the problem then its time the fanciers in Lanarkshire dig deep and make up the shortfall of new 7.5T wagons, im no having my pigeons controlled by haulage companies, I prepare them for the race that was passed by the members at the race program meeting and expect nothing else but that.

[tiger]

Pritty drastic Steven, don't think there is a need for this, all that is needed is to have a race controller that doesn't think he is God, if the fed book has a race program then this should be adhered to, not have someone that lacks backbone and brings them closer to home at the slightest breeze or spit of rain. JMO

maybe you should try the job ?

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

maybe you should try the job ?

 

Thanks

 

Would have no problem doing it apart from i work alternative Friday and Saturday night-shifts added to that 3 boys that have to be given priority. One day i will take my turn but in the meantime im sure there is someone out there that doesn't have the problems that i have doing the job.

[tiger]

Thanks

 

Would have no problem doing it apart from i work alternative Friday and Saturday night-shifts added to that 3 boys that have to be given priority.

and do think that your the only one that works ? and as having a family that was ur choice , its easy to criticize he doe,s his best for lf . he,s damned if he doe,s and damned if he doesn't

[sammy]

and do think that your the only one that works ? and as having a family that was ur choice , its easy to criticize he doe,s his best for lf . he,s damned if he doe,s and damned if he doesn't

SPOT ON JOHN YIR IN THAT POSITION YIRSELF AND KNOW THE SCORE AND ONLY HAVE THE INTEREST OF THE PIGEONS AT HEART

[tiger]

SPOT ON JOHN YIR IN THAT POSITION YIRSELF AND KNOW THE SCORE AND ONLY HAVE THE INTEREST OF THE PIGEONS AT HEART

its ashame for him he.s stuck between a rock and hard place, jmo

[sammy]

its ashame for him he.s stuck between a rock and hard place, jmo

HAND ON HEART NOTHING BUT ADMIRATION FOR THE GUYS THAT DO THESE JOBS THEY NEED REALLY THICK SKIN

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

and do think that your the only one that works ? and as having a family that was ur choice , its easy to criticize he doe,s his best for lf . he,s damned if he doe,s and damned if he doesn't

Don't know if you know this John, but 70% of fanciers are over 65 in the pigeon sport, infact out of 20+ members in my own club there are 3 that work. This is typical of most clubs so I'm sure that someone who has the ambition and the time will do all they can to carry out there members wishes on race programs.

And yes we all know that the racecontrollers job is a thankless task.

 

Also it was my choice to have a family and what a great choice it was.

[tiger]

Don't know if you know this John, but 70% of fanciers are over 65 in the pigeon sport, infact out of 20+ members in my own club there are 3 that work. This is typical of most clubs so I'm sure that someone who has the ambition and the time will do all they can to carry out there members wishes on race programs.

And yes we all know that the racecontrollers job is a thankless task.

 

Also it was my choice to have a family and what a great choice it was.

well get behind and back him , just out of interest did you not try it once jh job ?

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

well get behind and back him , just out of interest did you not try it once jh job ?

Did and was reappointed for a second year, resigned though because of a new appointment to the control team that I feel I could not trust.

[budgie]

Did and was reappointed for a second year, resigned though because of a new appointment to the control team that I feel I could not trust.

Wise move and i know:angry: where you are coming from.:angry:We have a loft full on untried Doos.

Edited September 6, 2011 by budgie

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

interesting to hear some people talk of the Dundee controller as a "maverick" but when you look at the Clermont result maybe hes doing them a favour??