Guest andy64 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 How many birds do you lads have or race , i`ve not got any birds my self but when the time comes i haven`t got unlimited space, probably 12 x 10 max she`ll allow me at the top of the garden , and i like the idea of a small team, probably no more than forty birds max at any one time.Any of you lads on here have success with small racing teams - if not what do you think about the idea, cheers andy.
geordie1234 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 How many birds do you lads have or race , i`ve not got any birds my self but when the time comes i haven`t got unlimited space, probably 12 x 10 max she`ll allow me at the top of the garden , and i like the idea of a small team, probably no more than forty birds max at any one time.Any of you lads on here have success with small racing teams - if not what do you think about the idea, cheers andy.im sure you can have fun and compete in some but not all with 40 birds
b.massey Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 We have sent no more than 14 and won 2/4 races
alex young Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 Andy,I race a team of 12 pairs and 24 young birds if everything goes to plan.I don't have stock, my racers are my breeders.This is out of choice as it suits me and I only compete in sprint racing up to 200mls.In my opinion you need to set your targets realistically if your going to race with a small team of pigeons.atb.
Guest andy64 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 im sure you can have fun and compete in some but not all with 40 birds Yer thats what i reckoned, as long as i could have a go for part of the season this would have to be enough.I`m thinking that if i got myself some half decent stock birds to get half decent youngsters i`ll have half a chance or at least be able to compete ..........I understand things are not always this simple but it would be a starting point.
geordie1234 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 is there not a link somewhere of a old boy with like 6 pair and he only breeds 6 ybs and does/done well
Guest andy64 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 Andy,I race a team of 12 pairs and 24 young birds if everything goes to plan.I don't have stock, my racers are my breeders.This is out of choice as it suits me and I only compete in sprint racing up to 200mls.In my opinion you need to set your targets realistically if your going to race with a small team of pigeons.atb. Sounds good, this is the type of set up i would want/am able to have.if you compete in just sprint races do you race a certain strain or strains and how many races do you compete in a year.
Guest andy64 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 is there not a link somewhere of a old boy with like 6 pair and he only breeds 6 ybs and does/done well i`ll google and see if i can find it.
blaz Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 yes it is posibil to race a small team and be competitive with the right birds. strains i would suggest are van loons, busharts, and staff van reets. using any or all 3 strains you could be competitive from 1st club/fed race till last club/fed race . only my opinion
Wiley Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 best flyer in the east london fed races 8 widowhood cocks, he topped the federation 6 times and won the amal 5 times, real good pigeon flyer
Guest spin cycle Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 Yer thats what i reckoned, as long as i could have a go for part of the season this would have to be enough.I`m thinking that if i got myself some half decent stock birds to get half decent youngsters i`ll have half a chance or at least be able to compete ..........I understand things are not always this simple but it would be a starting point. IMO.... DON'T get stock birds as this will take up valuble space. if you only want to race part season you could race old birds to the 12x6....i have 24 pairs in that size.to start IMO get your 12x6 and divide it into an 8 and 4 ft section....keep your feed etc in the 4ft and have 30 ybs in the 8ft and see where you are in a year i know its a bit daunting to think 'where am i going to get 30 ybs ? they seem so expensive' but i'm sure local fanciers or pb members would help. good luck sorry mis read original post.....12x10 is massive..10x4 yb loft one end....10x6 race loft the other and a long 10x2 corridor in the middle for corn/ baskets perhaps?
alex young Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 Sounds good, this is the type of set up i would want/am able to have.if you compete in just sprint races do you race a certain strain or strains and how many races do you compete in a year.Andy we have 13 races in the fed (inland) and 6 midweek.The fed young birds have 9 races and 6 in the midweek club.My birds are for sprint racing and are all Adrian Duggins (Janssen based)I missed 4 race last season but still competed in 30.
Guest andy64 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 IMO.... DON'T get stock birds as this will take up valuble space. if you only want to race part season you could race old birds to the 12x6....i have 24 pairs in that size.to start IMO get your 12x6 and divide it into an 8 and 4 ft section....keep your feed etc in the 4ft and have 30 ybs in the 8ft and see where you are in a year i know its a bit daunting to think 'where am i going to get 30 ybs ? they seem so expensive' but i'm sure local fanciers or pb members would help. good luck sorry mis read original post.....12x10 is massive..10x4 yb loft one end....10x6 race loft the other and a long 10x2 corridor in the middle for corn/ baskets perhaps? Thanks for the advice certainly makes sense what your saying especially if it`s only a small team loft, you need every bit of space available so i can see how stock birds would kill space.
The engineer Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 Thanks for the advice certainly makes sense what your saying especially if it`s only a small team loft, you need every bit of space available so i can see how stock birds would kill space.I am a new starter i have a 14 by 10 loft. I have joined a 6 bird club therefore don't need a massive team. I am looking to start Yb racing this year with around 25. After the yb season i will see what i ahve left. They will then form next years breeders and racers. as some of the posts have said local fanciers and Pb members are very generous and as yet i have not bought any pigeons. I think this sort of set up would be ideal for yourself. My loft has a centre corridor 2 sections one either side with a large 3rd section at the rear.I am not getting stock birds as you say they take up valuable space and i feel as a small team fancier space is at a premium. Good luck with getting started i think you have overcome the first major hurdle persuading the wife!!!
just ask me Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 is there not a link somewhere of a old boy with like 6 pair and he only breeds 6 ybs and does/done well i think it might be in the articles section not sure ill have a look later
adam owen Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 it will take time but u will get there all you need is good birds the rest will come my granch had 12 widow cocks 14ybs and flew every race and had two stock pairs averaging 11 12 firsts a year but you got have good birds numbers is a mugs game id rather have good uns than 40 half about birds staff van reet had 6 cocks im led to belive all best m8
eastcoaster Posted May 11, 2011 Report Posted May 11, 2011 my first season at this club , mostly late breds , sent 23 was 7th ,sent 8 was 3rd ,sent 9 was 4th ,sent 6 was 2nd all with more than a dozen members sending and over 200 birds each race , so yes you can compete ! not fantastic results (yet) but you must believe in your birds and your ability . good luck .ps the first race i lost 8
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