Shortcut Lofts Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Something i have never seen before has happened. I have a 2 year old widowhood hen that layed 7 days after pairing but next day she couldnt fly up to her box. Has anyone seen this before? P.S birds have ample supply of grit and minerals (i first thought it was a calcium defincienty) all birds prior to pairing were treated for canker (metrodizional) and a course of nufuramicin was administered. birds were also vaccinated for pmv in November. Eamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 if its for racing forget it this year put in the bin, if for stock forget it, most likely it has taken para typhus, in a milder form, and that will not help the other birds in among est it no a very good site to see, and it will only end up as a bean eater IMO the fact you jagged 6-8 weeks ago can point the bird might have a Cross infection if the needle was not serialized after each bird jab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue bar Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 had the same problem last year with a couple of hen just after laying . The hen will be ok just feed and water her in her box for a couple of days and she should be fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 could be lack of calcium , or been a bit fat whilst laying causing a trapped nerve if is should be ok within a few days only thing to watch out for is paratyphoid if she's carrying will pass to young birds ( swollen joints ) as a precaution drop her a calcium tablet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcut Lofts Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks for the replies guys, i should also say that to see the bird on the floor feeding etc she looks mint but just cant get to the box. She has no swollen joints and handles not too bad just a little down but i put this down to laying. I will isolate her for a few days and see what happens from there, she is too good to cull just now but if no improvements are made she will go, i have already made my mind up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IB Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 This has been discussed on forum many times over the years, opinions differ as to cause, but in all cases the bird comes good after a day or so, so it isn't down to illness. Personally I don't think it has anything to do with calcium shortage as calcium for eggs comes from special bone deposits 'melted' under hormone control which starts when the hen ovulates. It is more likely that during laying, the egg has brushed the sciatic nerve to the legs, which runs close to the 'egg-works', so causing this temporary paralysis in legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcut Lofts Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 i will give her some time out on her own and see what happens. Your replies have helped alot, thanks guys. eamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 hi eamon fairly new at the doos but have had this a couple of times with hens cock looked after the eggs or fostered rested hens for a couple of days and came right . hope this helps dont be to hasty on doing away with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcut Lofts Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I will not be hasty, already she is up into second row of boxes in Yb loft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 lack of calcium is is one thing which causes birds being unable to do certain movements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 This has been discussed on forum many times over the years, opinions differ as to cause, but in all cases the bird comes good after a day or so, so it isn't down to illness. Personally I don't think it has anything to do with calcium shortage as calcium for eggs comes from special bone deposits 'melted' under hormone control which starts when the hen ovulates. It is more likely that during laying, the egg has brushed the sciatic nerve to the legs, which runs close to the 'egg-works', so causing this temporary paralysis in legs.i think you are spot on mate. seen this lots of times over the years. when hens are on first eggs and been a bit over weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I will not be hasty, already she is up into second row of boxes in Yb loft i would have left her sitting eggs feed and water in box as you dont want her to go down on eggs again too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 THERS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE HEN ITS BEEN TOO FAT WHEN LAYED IT TOUCHES A NERVE IT WILL COME ROUNDKEEP AN EYE ON HER I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE EVERY ONE IS PARATYPHOID MAD NOW A DAYS GOOD LUCK JIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 The problem with asking this sort of question on this Forum is that any answers you get are just guesses. Jim says that we are Paratyphoid mad and he is probably right but what if we are not? The real answer to your question would be to take the bird to a good Vet. My own guess is that your bird is suffering with a calcium defficiency. I know that you said that you have given the birds grit but the bird can still be finding it difficult to have the benefit from it. Sometimes birds are injured when they lay eggs, and if that is the case the problem will be temporary and she will get better.If it was my bird, and I concluded that she had a weakness, I would get rid. I know it is easy for me to say that because I am an out and out Widowhood Flyer and I have good hens coming out of my ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C Visser Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hi I have a 3 year old hen, that hasn't been able to fly since she laid her first egg a week ago. I cant understand what has caused this. I having to put her in her box every and its only a couple of feet off the ground. Is she lacking in something after laying. Has anyone came across this before. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hi I have a 3 year old hen, that hasn't been able to fly since she laid her first egg a week ago. I cant understand what has caused this. I having to put her in her box every and its only a couple of feet off the ground. Is she lacking in something after laying. Has anyone came across this before. Thanks There was a thread on here just a few days ago for same thing quite common wae loads o diffo answers have a search for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C Visser Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 There was a thread on here just a few days ago for same thing quite common wae loads o diffo answers have a search for it Thanks for that, i do that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Get some calcium tabs at the chemist (one down her throat),or better still Osteocare.My stock birds have been on osteocare for a week now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve d Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 had it happen to a friend a few years back with a few hens we gave them tablets that were made from old hand, I am sure they were called elementals, cured them overnight......it is more than likely calcium defiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C Visser Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hi thanks for the info, thot it had to do with some sort of deficiency, but didnt know it was is calcium. Will get the tablets today and try that out.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest homestead Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Its lack of calcium if you use Osteocare from the chemist for pregnant women half a tablet for 3-4 days problem solved you can also buy it in liquid form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 or can buy fortified calcium or grate up a cuttle fish simply dip in lemon juice grate and add to water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor9 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 greenlands what ratio do you use when adding osteocare to the drinking water ?how many mls of osteocare to a litre of water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 greenlands what ratio do you use when adding osteocare to the drinking water ?how many mls of osteocare to a litre of waterHi Mate, osteocare , from any good health shop or chemist, 5mls to a 2 litre drinker,or put the same amount on thier daily feed ,I think IMO twice a week is ample. http://www.vitabiotics.com/osteocare/Lindsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor9 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 THANKS GREENLANDS WILL GIVE THIS A TRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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