What Do You Think

[yeboah]

OR it gives a result that keeps people happy and keeps the club going. if you're 'good enough' to wipeout your club you should,IMO, be aiming higher. in which case club racing only serves as training and a 'mechanism' by which you can check that your birds are competitive

Very good point some of the hardest working members in small clubs are the ones that sometimes only win a small percentage of prizes yet it is the same few that keep clubs afloat ,i would think personally the only people who are wanting to take the first ten to twenty positions are those who want to sell ,i was told by a very good friend from another organisation of people who advertised birds for sale stating they had taken all club positions from certain races he said what they did not state was they were the only ones that entered,i am very fortunate to fly in a small friendly club where if we take the first three we go home more than happy

[dal2]

I fly in a highly competetive club wae some o the best fanciers in our area. We have one member who dominates club racin and whos biggest wish is to take the first 10 in the club. In the last few years he has had upto 8 frae 10, the members just get on with it and try hard tae beat him. club racin not everything!!

[yeboah]

I fly in a highly competetive club wae some o the best fanciers in our area. We have one member who dominates club racin and whos biggest wish is to take the first 10 in the club. In the last few years he has had upto 8 frae 10, the members just get on with it and try hard tae beat him. club racin not everything!!

Think i am right in saying steven that bird limits have to be agreed by all club members if one member opposes this ruling he can complain to the union and they will uphold his decision

[TrickyHannah]

Think i am right in saying steven that bird limits have to be agreed by all club members if one member opposes this ruling he can complain to the union and they will uphold his decision

 

 

Is this true coz 6 voted for the limit and 3 didn't.

[yeboah]

Is this true coz 6 voted for the limit and 3 didn't.

Think if you were to phone the shu they will put you right on this one ,am sure if one objects his decision will be upheld .

[Roland]

Why are those that work the hardest always penalised the most, as are the successful.

Well Mick, that is obvious and they shouldn't mind at all.

Firstly those that 'Make the Numbers up' also pay into their coffers. They pay in to their prize money and cheaper racing etc. etc.

There is as I could mention many, but just two for now. One PAYS for the priviledge and ALL costs and expence in the club, in order that he can race against some opposition, and to get expierence and worthwhile mileage into his birds .... the same members who send just a few in HIS club, also have their' own club where he isn't wanted or entertained.

Another on oaths and promised and pleading to be allowed to join the club, made many promises... HE sends upward of 200 and over some weeks, that he would this that or the other. He flies against a few inexpirence youngsters, and one or two older ones.... whom have also started another club where he will never ever get in. Yes he brags and struts and sales many pigeons too many whom believe that he is great and a household name. says he 'I want to send 173, and clock them ALL in before anyone else has....

Some pack up. Some just form another club and let him send in a club sending 243 birds where 220 are his! the man is a dishonest fibbing horrid git. But to those clambering to buy his birds are reading first 5 - 10 in club sending 243.

I could name many more as such ... so just whom do they think they are kidding ... No one that bothers to ask. Yes both of the above, and the others are fifthy rich... But have ruin many a club and caused many to pack up due to selfish arrogant greed and selfish ego's.

Let those that have a 2 - 5 clocking limit just clock them in and bide their tongue. Would do the club and other members good for starters and wouldn't have their nose rubb in it most weeks.... And Yes Mick, these are the ones that have bought their locations. And the last one has moved twice since because a couple od other sharks moves to the east of him and started winning xthe fed positions... Yes he move to the outskirt of the EAST!

They are no good for the sport!

[frank-123]

mad rule i would never vote for that and i am at the middle and bottom of the results most weeks

if someone beats me then well done to them

our club has 6 postions up for grabs if someone takes the top six then good on them

every member will have a pigeon on the result but the top six will be the first 6

 

to take a ticket on a false position i would say your desperate imo

[ALF]

YES I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS!!!! IN OUR FED WE HAVE THE 1ST 15 POSITIONS IN EACH SECTION SO IF THE CLUB WILL ONLY GIVE YOU 2 BUT THE FED GIVE YOU 15 ARE THE CLUB PUTTING THE OTHER 13 POSITIONS IN IF SOMEONE WINS THE 1ST 15 IN THE CLUB??? AND IF NOT THEN THE FED RESULT WILL BE A FARCE WILL IT NOT??????

[THE FIFER]

yes Alf thats what I posted above,it cant work, also if a member puts 10 birds away and only 2 alowed to count he should only pay 2 entry fees,legally if he pays for 10 birds they are allowed their places, who wants a 3rd place knowing lots of birds are in before them, this is making pigeon racing a lottery put 20 away but only get 2 no wonder we cant get it classed as a sport,

[Guest IB]

dont see how that can be right, if someon takes the first 6 places vel, 1140,1141,1142,1143,1144,1145, so his 1145 doesn,t count but counts for a fed place, but the person taking his 6th place club on 1146 would be beating his bird in the club but cant in the fed because its club velocities the fed go by ?????

 

Yes, all the birds timed in each club go forward for the Fed result, our club result can be false. And some of our members take it even further - they'll time their 1st pigeon, and their pooler and then take out their ETS clock.

 

Had the opposite in the former Larkhall club, in the former Lanarkshire fed, think it was only the 1st 40 pigeons made the club result in the days when that club put 600-800 pigeons away most weeks.

 

But skewed results also involve racing at National level, result shows only the birds timed that take section, open or pool money, your bird might have a higher velocity than others on the official result, but if it didn't win a section or open position, or take pool money, your bird doesn't count.

[frank-123]

Yes, all the birds timed in each club go forward for the Fed result, our club result can be false. And some of our members take it even further - they'll time their 1st pigeon, and their pooler and then take out their ETS clock.

 

Had the opposite in the former Larkhall club, in the former Lanarkshire fed, think it was only the 1st 40 pigeons made the club result in the days when that club put 600-800 pigeons away most weeks.

 

But skewed results also involve racing at National level, result shows only the birds timed that take section, open or pool money, your bird might have a higher velocity than others on the official result, but if it didn't win a section or open position, or take pool money, your bird doesn't count.

 

open postions are all correct

section results are then made up so to fill section prizes or to finish off remaining pool money

[Guest spin cycle]

perhaps if you are in a big club 15-20 lofts sending weekly then clocking limits don't make sense. but in smaller clubs like mine i think they are desirable. i do a fair 'shift' in my club taking the birds to the transporter most weeks....i don't mind in fact (quite like it) but i'm still putting the returned crates away at 10pm. my point being i'm not messing about doing that while other members have been home since 7:30 counting their thimbles 'cos thats taking the p**s ( in my view). i don't always do the result now...but if i do and someone fills their clock....then they can do the result.

 

the point is that alot of flyers are happy to let others do the work.....but it is an advantage to them because their thoughts are not on club business during the week...just on their birds. it may be a co-incidence but my own results improved dramatically when i gave up press sec. perhaps i was thinking more about my pigeons than what to write in the next bulletin

[ALF]

in our own club the 1st 15 pigeons with the highest velocity go to the fed as that would be the 15 section positions covered wether we we 1st or last in the section

[dal2]

Think i am right in saying steven that bird limits have to be agreed by all club members if one member opposes this ruling he can complain to the union and they will uphold his decision

 

Defo was the case Mike butI think the goalposts may have moved recently!!!

[Rebus]

when a fancier pays for a bird to enter a race it is entitled to compete for any prize in the race, therefore if these limits were challenged im sure they would fall, anyway who wants to win a prize that another bird would have won if it had not been for a selfish rule.