What Would U Do ?

[bombersbullets]

Had a phone call the other day to tell me that a Y/B i brought last year at a Fed Breeder Buyer Sale G/sire just sold for 1220 euros on the net the sale was on pipa crehan oconner sale 29/8/2010 lot 3 the young cock has had a few minor cards in the club cracking cock was thinking should i still keep him on the the road or bang him in the stock shed for a season or 2 plz as many reply as poss would like to know peoples opinions on this one because its done me hehehe

[ALF]

I HAVE 2 HENS IN THE LOFT JUST NOW BRED BY JOHN 1 WON AND THE OTHER WAS 2ND IN THE CLUB 12TH OPEN IN THE FED BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY BOTH HAVE BRED SOME GOOD BIRDS INCUDING A COCK THAT WON NEARLY A THOUSAND POUNDS IN POOL MONEY

[OLDYELLOW]

Had a phone call the other day to tell me that a Y/B i brought last year at a Fed Breeder Buyer Sale G/sire just sold for 1220 euros on the net the sale was on pipa crehan oconner sale 29/8/2010 lot 3 the young cock has had a few minor cards in the club cracking cock was thinking should i still keep him on the the road or bang him in the stock shed for a season or 2 plz as many reply as poss would like to know peoples opinions on this one because its done me hehehe

If was me , I'd probably race it on but take a few off it , too make sure it's breeding winners before going to stock

[gulkie]

keep it of the road for a year find out what its breeding

wont do it any harm if you race it and loose it you will

never know :emoticon-0138-thinking:

[Guest Freebird]

keep it of the road for a year find out what its breeding

wont do it any harm if you race it and loose it you will

never know :emoticon-0138-thinking:

This seems sound advice to me. Why race it and risk losing to whatever. Nothing to lose by trying it out in the stock loft really. By the way I do not race pigions so you may disregard my opinion but it may help coming from a different angle.

[gd]

race it - it hasn't proved itself down the road yet.

[bombersbullets]

Had a phone call the other day to tell me that a Y/B i brought last year at a Fed Breeder Buyer Sale G/sire just sold for 1220 euros on the net the sale was on pipa crehan oconner sale 29/8/2010 lot 3 the young cock has had a few minor cards in the club cracking cock was thinking should i still keep him on the the road or bang him in the stock shed for a season or 2 plz as many reply as poss would like to know peoples opinions on this one because its done me hehehe

sorry miss type the G/sire made 12200 euro lol

[JohnQuinn]

What its Sire or G/sire have sold for, or done, it should not influence your decision.

 

In your shoes, if i thought i had some decent birds in my loft at the moment i would Dispose of the bird.

If i thought my team Wasn't up to much, i Might hang onto it and take a chance with a couple of pairs out of it with a decent hen, my thinking being it can't do any harm, for all the good it might do!!

Either way i wouldn't race it, as i would never put pool money onto a bird that had went into another fanciers loft, because as soon as the going gets tough it will go into the nearest loft available. jmo

 

If i could choose, the first option would be my preference,

[DJWa]

What its Sire or G/sire have sold for, or done, it should not influence your decision.

 

In your shoes, if i thought i had some decent birds in my loft at the moment i would Dispose of the bird.

If i thought my team Wasn't up to much, i Might hang onto it and take a chance with a couple of pairs out of it with a decent hen, my thinking being it can't do any harm, for all the good it might do!!

Either way i wouldn't race it, as i would never put pool money onto a bird that had went into another fanciers loft, because as soon as the going gets tough it will go into the nearest loft available. jmo

 

If i could choose, the first option would be my preference,

 

youve totally lost me there john

 

either you know something we dont but it was never said the bird went into someone elses loft

just that it was bought as a breeder buyer and had a few minor tickets

 

and to me the birds just 2010 bred and has pleanty of time to prove itself

as a racer or stockbird

[billt]

youve totally lost me there john

 

either you know something we dont but it was never said the bird went into someone elses loft

just that it was bought as a breeder buyer and had a few minor tickets

 

and to me the birds just 2010 bred and has pleanty of time to prove itself

as a racer or stockbird

Don't worry about John, He's probably still at a New Years party :rolleyes:

[DJWa]

Don't worry about John, He's probably still at a New Years party :rolleyes:

 

your prob right

[JohnQuinn]

your prob right

 

No quite but maybe still feeling the effects Yer right i read it wrong. So in that case...................

 

 

I Might want to pair it with 2 different hens to preserve the bloodline and i Reckon i would keep racing it to see if its predecessors are worth the money getting paid for them, and if it scores big, sell a few off it in a year or two.

[DJWa]

No quite but maybe still feeling the effects Yer right i read it wrong. So in that case...................

 

 

I Might want to pair it with 2 different hens to preserve the bloodline and i Reckon i would keep racing it to see if its predecessors are worth the money getting paid for them, and if it scores big, sell a few off it in a year or two.

think a lot of us in the same boat there john

back to work tomorow though so soft drinks tonight

[JohnQuinn]

I was in the day but it was an easy shift so the nerves stood up to it, or so i thought 'til i put that post up

[billt]

I was in the day but it was an easy shift so the nerves stood up to it, or so i thought 'til i put that post up

Thats where you went wrong John, I stayed home and carried on drinking

[Guest Pearse]

Race it needs to prove itself doesnt matter what its off theres good and bad that come out of the best of birds

[Diamond dave]

Lets be honest - the grandsire must be an exceptional pigeon for someone to pay 12000 plus euros. - For me, this pigeon doesn't need to prove itself - it is alrady worth more at stock. Put it to stock this year, and take as many YBs out of it as you can. Then decide what you want to do with it at the start of next year. - After all you stand more chance of losing it as a yearling anyway.

 

D.D.

[Guest Owen]

John is right because everything depends on the quality of birds you have in your loft. When I started to think straight and refused to buy any more of other peoples' crap I bred from my best homers. I did not have any winners at that time. I then proceded by pairing best to best until I was getting winners. I used the Bull System so that I could avoid breeding from non performers and only bred from, what I call qualifying birds. These days a Cock has to win 4 races to qualify and be allowed to breed.

Now to answer your question, if I had your bird I would want more results to get him qualified to breed. If, on the other hand you do not have performance qualified birds, you would be silly to risk him on the road. So, in essence, you have to make the decision based on the whole picture. The one thing you can not afford, is to look back later and regret what you have done. I know people say that you learn by your mistakes but, let's be honest, it is better to think things out and not make those sort of mistakes in the first place.

[Guest mick bowler]

I think you'll find that price was due to its breeding more than what it had bred, had bred 1 x 1st and 1 x 3rd and a few other positions. Your best bet speak to John Crehan and ask him if its sons/dtrs breeding the goods, that may answer your question.

[bombersbullets]

cheers for your replys lads

[Roland]

Race it. Has to prove it's self. Think every birds has foreparents fetching at least that amount. every birds seems to have a goldern pedigree.... and more get lost every year than stay around. JMO