Derby Internacional Arona Tenerife 2011

[Guest tom123]

im not defending anything in regards to the organising has i think it is spot on and cannot fault the set up or organisation that as gone into it

but what needs to be said to defend the arona o.l.r. is tenerife is a small island as we all know and short training tosses are needed on the island before they reach the sea or youll be losing a lot more so i dont think theres much more the organisation can do

,like its been said b.o.p is a world wide problem and no one as yet has come up with an ansewer to overcome it

so if it be one loft races, federation races or even letting your birds out around the loft its a pay your money take your chance situation all the way unfortunatly

people will knock it because its a publicsed competition

[Guest mick bowler]

im not defending anything in regards to the organising has i think it is spot on and cannot fault the set up or organisation that as gone into it

but what needs to be said to defend the arona o.l.r. is tenerife is a small island as we all know and short training tosses are needed on the island before they reach the sea or youll be losing a lot more so i dont think theres much more the organisation can do

,like its been said b.o.p is a world wide problem and no one as yet has come up with an ansewer to overcome it

so if it be one loft races, federation races or even letting your birds out around the loft its a pay your money take your chance situation all the way unfortunatly

people will knock it because its a publicsed competition

 

 

Tom i agree, BOP is a world wide problem, but fanciers have to adapt to survive. The worse time for pigeons to be hit by BOP is shortly after lib, and thats where us fanciers should be playing our part, in whatever helps our birds!

 

I'm not sure it you have a serious BOP problem but i do, so i know that one of the big changes has to be the way you train. Letting them go in one bunch, and that goes for any loft, is asking for problems. The advantage these OLR organisers have over fed races is apart from the main races they can liberate in smaller groups, but only if they want too of course.

 

Yes they will always be open for criticism, but maybe they should look at what they can do to limit that and wether the criticism is justifiable or not!

 

Every bird in that loft has been affected by that toss, when quite frankly they didnt need to be.

[WulDon]

lets not get put off by these short training races lads and a couple falcons upsetting matters, like Tom said nobody is knocking the organisers, they do a FIRST CLASS job... i have visited the set up and cannot fault them one little bit, they are professionals at what they do... i'm sure other OLR throughout the world experience hawk/falcon attacks, if they displayed footage as derby arona does then we would witness this for ourselves, at least we know why a very small percentage of pigeons are being lost with derby arona... lets face it if only 500 make it through to the final i'm pretty sure falcons/hawks cannot be held totally responsible for the rest, fact is it is the most difficult one loft race in the world and only the absolute best will make it this far... and i sincerely hope at least one or two of mine make it into the final...

 

hawks and falcons are part of our sport now, whether we let our team of birds out for exercise... short training spin... or at local club/fed racing, we just need to pray and fingers crossed that we dont get hit! when i was younger we used to let our stock birds out to exercise, who does that now... no chance!!!

 

tenerife is a small island and the short training spins are essential along the coast line before they start going across the water and then onto other islands, i entered 3 pigeons last year and thoroughly enjoyed the whole experience, this year i have entered ten and will definetly be entering next year...

[Guest mick bowler]

fact is it is the most difficult one loft race in the world and only the absolute best will make it this far... and i sincerely hope at least one or two of mine make it into the final...

 

lol, i'd say a lot of luck involved too Willie! Also my biggest problem with regard to falcons seemed not to be to so much how many they took but how it stressed the birds out, scared to fly and then the illnesses. If this loft the same maybe the falcons will be to blame for more losses than it outwardly appears.

 

Best of luck BTW!!

Edited December 28, 2010 by mick bowler

[WulDon]

lol, i'd say a lot of luck involved too Willie! Also my biggest problem with regard to falcons seemed not to be to so much how many they took but how it stressed the birds out, scared to fly and then the illnesses. If this loft the same maybe the falcons will be to blame for more losses than it outwardly appears.

 

Best of luck BTW!!

 

 

cheers Mick... hear what your saying bud, i suppose we just have to pay our money and take our chances, life would be a bit boring if everything was so staright forward eh! ha ha...

[WulDon]

Returns from Training Race 05 are pretty much excellent, over 98%... 2180/2214

 

just a pity one of them still missing is mine...

[greenlands]

Yesterdays training toss.

 

 

 

Take note the rockets.

 

Lindsay.

[Guest IB]

Quite pleased the organisers used rockets. IMO shows a willingness to adapt.

 

But for me, these pigeons spend far too long at the release site and don't appear to be finding a quick line home - maybe because they have been libbed under continuous unbroken cloud.

 

The batches' aimless cross-crossing the sky is bound to attract unwelcome attention. I think they'd clear quicker libbed in better conditions, and in smaller groups (500 birds) at these short distances. IMO these YBs are learning nothing except maybe bad habits.

[greenlands]

Very bad toss IMO,six or more batches not wanting to break for home ,posible thoughts of the previous training fiasco.

[JohnQuinn]

Would have thought it Legal to shoot Percy over there, don't think they have meddlers (rspb) like we have to suffer in this country.

[WulDon]

Very bad toss IMO,six or more batches not wanting to break for home ,posible thoughts of the previous training fiasco.

 

 

no different from any type of racing in the UK, leaders make it bang on time putting up great velocities... others lag behind for what ever reason, one reason is obviously raptors which seems to be the main issue here.

 

one loft races are competitions and letting them up in batches defeats the purpose of the competition, i am happy with the way these training races are going and i'm sure the biggest majority of entrants are also happy, if we werent then they would not have had a record entry this year which meant the lofts had to be extended... so if the entrants are happy thats all that really matters i suppose...

[Guest IB]

Would have thought it Legal to shoot Percy over there, don't think they have meddlers (rspb) like we have to suffer in this country.

 

As far as I know Canary Islands are part of European Union and subject to same wildlife protection laws.

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Would have thought it Legal to shoot Percy over there, don't think they have meddlers (rspb) like we have to suffer in this country.

 

EHHHHHHH..!?!?!? Is it not legal too shoot percys over here..???

[WulDon]

Training Race 06 today 45km

[sapper756]

Training Race 06 today 45km

 

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[WulDon]

Training Race 06 (45km) took place as scheduled yesterday... my final entry from Training Race 05 turned up during this race, giving full returns.

 

At the moment 1949 birds have arrived at the lofts from 2181 liberated, two of my entries still adrift, birds trickling in this morning so fingers crossed!

Edited December 30, 2010 by WulDon

[WulDon]

nearly 93% returns now, 2022 home...

[WulDon]

returns now at 2068... i am still one entry missing, watched my red cock trap on livestream tv yesterday afternoon at 2.32pm, brilliant!!!

 

my last one eturned also from Training 05, so we still have 9 entries left from 10, cant grumble.

[frank-123]

returns now at 2068... i am still one entry missing, watched my red cock trap on livestream tv yesterday afternoon at 2.32pm, brilliant!!!

 

my last one eturned also from Training 05, so we still have 9 entries left from 10, cant grumble.

 

going along nicely wullie 2011 might be a good year fingers crossed

[WulDon]

going along nicely wullie 2011 might be a good year fingers crossed

 

 

hope so frank, everything will be crossed if we get into final again this year!

 

returns now over 95%, 2082 birds home...

 

Training Race 07 now rescheduled for 3rd January, weather permitting, 55km.

[WulDon]

Liberation of 2095 birds expected at 10.30am for Training Race 07 from S.Maria del Mar, a distance of 55km...

 

The race arrivals can be viewed 'LIVE' on the Derby Arona website via Livestream TV, how proffesional is this... good luck to all who are entered.

[lanarkshire lad]

Liberation of 2095 birds expected at 10.30am for Training Race 07 from S.Maria del Mar, a distance of 55km...

 

The race arrivals can be viewed 'LIVE' on the Derby Arona website via Livestream TV, how proffesional is this... good luck to all who are entered.

Sorry for being a daffty but how much is it for a doo and when and how do they get shipped.?

[clockman]

Liberation of 2095 birds expected at 10.30am for Training Race 07 from S.Maria del Mar, a distance of 55km...

 

The race arrivals can be viewed 'LIVE' on the Derby Arona website via Livestream TV, how proffesional is this... good luck to all who are entered.

11am lib,

[Guest pied 09]

Sorry for being a daffty but how much is it for a doo and when and how do they get shipped.?

i went on the site the other day. read the rules but couldnt find where the date of entry was and was left with a few unanswerd questions.

[WulDon]

Sorry for being a daffty but how much is it for a doo and when and how do they get shipped.?

 

 

this year a team consisted of five pigeons, one activated pigeon and four reserves for the sum of 220 euro.

 

should you have all five left at 'activation period' then they could be activated and entered into the main races for the sum of 220 euro per pigeon (pretty sure that how much it is?) should you not decide to activate the remaining entrants then they then become available to the public to purchase and activate.

 

shipment is by Pieter Oberholster to tenerife, which this year i'm sure my entrants went over about end of May, start of June time.