Louella Palmer Busschearts

[Guest grizzle-world]

Hi every body , just want to ask a question to you all and would like some help and advice ?

Right the question i want to ask is ? what do you all think of the breed LOUELLA PALMER BUSSCHEARTS , HAVE ANY ONE GOT ANY ON HERE and if so how have you found them ? ( raceing etc etc . As i dont want to go buy any if there no good for the job , just SEEMS A WASTE MONEY . ( just for a pedigree )

 

many thanks for all your help

 

grizzle-world

[budgie]

Dont know of anyone in Scotland who is winning with them.

[tommy2]

Listen Grizz, makes no difference ,doncaster show,bhw show of the year,sells in fancy press or on this site,mostly everything for sell will be crap,and thats a fact,but if you like those pretty palmer bussaerts from louella,buy what you fancy mate,no one on earth really knows for sure what will bred winners,even thou dealers may say so,if you do not belive this fact ,ask every seller for a cast iron garentee if what you buy does not produce winners in the 1st year,you want your money back,not a replacement of more crap.

[dal2]

Listen Grizz, makes no difference ,doncaster show,bhw show of the year,sells in fancy press or on this site,mostly everything for sell will be crap,and thats a fact,but if you like those pretty palmer bussaerts from louella,buy what you fancy mate,no one on earth really knows for sure what will bred winners,even thou dealers may say so,if you do not belive this fact ,ask every seller for a cast iron garentee if what you buy does not produce winners in the 1st year,you want your money back,not a replacement of more crap.

 

Fairs fair mate, gie the folks some encouragement!!! Canny see much wrong startin with Busshaerts, Good honest birds that can fly frae most distances.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

You know what they used to say-Busschaerts are like A***holes everybody has at least one .

Not so much the case anymore but there are still a few guys swear by them and get results to boot.Palmer was without doubt one of the great Busschaert men.Not sure how close the Louella birds will be to actual performance pigeons but if you do get them I'd like to hear how they treat you

[BLACK W F]

louella ones must be at least 5 generations since they where flown

john palmer still races and more than holds his own same old story pays your money takes your chance

[Wiley]

Hi every body , just want to ask a question to you all and would like some help and advice ?

Right the question i want to ask is ? what do you all think of the breed LOUELLA PALMER BUSSCHEARTS , HAVE ANY ONE GOT ANY ON HERE and if so how have you found them ? ( raceing etc etc . As i dont want to go buy any if there no good for the job , just SEEMS A WASTE MONEY . ( just for a pedigree )

 

many thanks for all your help

 

grizzle-world

 

Grizzle,

Surely your old man could put you on the right path on to what pigeons to buy, he has never done bad, all the years he has been racing?

[Guest Owen]

Before you go off and believe the advertising blurb just stop and have a think. When did these birds last race? When did the man who bred them last keep them? Did the strain originator keep the strain pure? As has already been said, no-one can predict where winners will come from but we can make some pretty good predictions.

Forget the strain names because there is no such thing as a pure bred strain of pigeon. If you want to keep pigeons as a hobby and like certain colours, that is fine and you can collect the ones that please you. However, if you want to be involved in the serious business of winning pigeon races, then you must keep birds from proven winning blood lines. You will find the best of them at Entire Clearance Sales or in the hands of fanciers that are actually winning. Of course you can go along the path that so many have followed and spend small fortunes with the Studs and Dealers but you will be taking a much bigger gamble if you do.

[tommy2]

Go on and buy the prety ones grizz,they will be no worse then anything up for sale in the winter selling season mate,thing about louella,loiuse always bought the best ,same as the arabs on racehorses,and they got the best now,loiuse was a brilliant racer,but relised it was easier to make money just by breeding instead of racing,same reason those roland janseen rubbish,kirkpatricks,faroes distance,stuff,bred just for colour many for donkeys years,and they still sell,funny,how stupid pigeon men are.

[dal2]

Go on and buy the prety ones grizz,they will be no worse then anything up for sale in the winter selling season mate,thing about louella,loiuse always bought the best ,same as the arabs on racehorses,and they got the best now,loiuse was a brilliant racer,but relised it was easier to make money just by breeding instead of racing,same reason those roland janseen rubbish,kirkpatricks,faroes distance,stuff,bred just for colour many for donkeys years,and they still sell,funny,how stupid pigeon men are.

 

Wot do you race mate?

[lanarkshire lad]

Go on and buy the prety ones grizz,they will be no worse then anything up for sale in the winter selling season mate,thing about louella,loiuse always bought the best ,same as the arabs on racehorses,and they got the best now,loiuse was a brilliant racer,but relised it was easier to make money just by breeding instead of racing,same reason those roland janseen rubbish,kirkpatricks,faroes distance,stuff,bred just for colour many for donkeys years,and they still sell,funny,how stupid pigeon men are.

But dont forget some people dont race just keep them to look at.

[chris h]

Wot do you race mate?

pigeons

[BLACK W F]

Go on and buy the prety ones grizz,they will be no worse then anything up for sale in the winter selling season mate,thing about louella,loiuse always bought the best ,same as the arabs on racehorses,and they got the best now,loiuse was a brilliant racer,but relised it was easier to make money just by breeding instead of racing,same reason those roland janseen rubbish,kirkpatricks,faroes distance,stuff,bred just for colour many for donkeys years,and they still sell,funny,how stupid pigeon men are.

your partly right but can tell ye theres plenty winning well with rolands and old kirkys but many have not come from massa thats a fact

[victorious]

Listen Grizz, makes no difference ,doncaster show,bhw show of the year,sells in fancy press or on this site,mostly everything for sell will be crap,and thats a fact,but if you like those pretty palmer bussaerts from louella,buy what you fancy mate,no one on earth really knows for sure what will bred winners,even thou dealers may say so,if you do not belive this fact ,ask every seller for a cast iron garentee if what you buy does not produce winners in the 1st year,you want your money back,not a replacement of more crap.

 

brilliant answer and good advice no one in ireland winning with them as far as i know

[kirky]

your partly right but can tell ye theres plenty winning well with rolands and old kirkys but many have not come from massa thats a fact

all the original stock of my kirkpatricks came from massa in the early 1990 when he still had the big winners, but i would not buy from them now.

[BLACK W F]

all the original stock of my kirkpatricks came from massa in the early 1990 when he still had the big winners, but i would not buy from them now.

 

 

the best kirkys i ever seen where the ones i had from perks bros theirs where very close to the originals and they flew well for me and many others who got them

[tommy2]

the best kirkys i ever seen where the ones i had from perks bros theirs where very close to the originals and they flew well for me and many others who got them

 

i remember buying some off perks bros/or it might have been patrick bros,both flew kirks,and bussaerts early 80`s on a christmas time for the oldman,hid them in our sisters shed for a couple of weeks till christmas morning to suprise him

As you say about to many generations gone by,i have also noticed weaker lines being brought in by louella,just look at the aardens,there biggest recent introduction invincable dorrori is n`t even a 500 mile bird,and i know that does not mean it cannot bred proper distance stuff,butits obvious breeding out of those type of birds you have got to be able to read a result,or your in big trouble,finding yourself a few seasons down the line with no workers,you see it time and time again,velocities up into 12-1300 or more,winners,nothing wrong with that if the same bird or close relatives have worked well below1,000 previous,but one off result straight into stockloft dodgy as hell.