ally mac Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 I am looking into a new loft. and have about 20 x 12 ft to play with. Any advice on the number of sections etc. and how to make best use of the 12' depth. Should add it needs to look good to keep the boss happy, thats the main reason the old one has to go!! Also someone in Scotland to build and errect would be handy but I could collect it and put it up myself. Al.
pjc Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 I would go for a 20 x 8 with 4 sections and a corridor along the front. 2 sections with nest boxes and 2 with perches then the space infront of the loft leaves room to pave it or put a tidy platform to keep the boss happy. You also need to think about how you plan to race, open door or traps for ETS etc. Phil
ally mac Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Posted July 13, 2008 Thanks Phil. The 12' is actually the space I have available for the loft, I will still have a paved area along the front. I would like to trap through something into the corridor as when I am training I am not always able to get back for the birds arriving. does that make sense? Al.
pjc Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 ok, go for 12 x 8 with 3 sections then, 1 with nest boxes and 2 with perches. loft in the pic would be ideal. Phil
ally mac Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Posted July 13, 2008 Heres a picture of the loft at present. The new loft front can be in the same as existing but I canm go further back to give me more depth.
pjc Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Better of sweet talking the boss and having a longer loft rather than a deeper loft.
Jumbo Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 i would have a 20 x 6 with a 20 x 6 avairy along the front so they would trap in the same place all their life . 3 section 2 x 6ft with 1 8ft .
ally mac Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Posted July 13, 2008 My thoughts are 20' long and a max of 12' deep. the 20' will take me to the end of the slabbed area to the right. I suppose I could have a 4' corridor and the sections 8' deep and make them slightly narrower. As long as the ventilation works okay at 12' ????????
pjc Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 8' deep sections are going to be very dark in the back unless you have roof lights!
ALF Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 YOU COULD EVEN GO FOR 2 20ft LONG BY 5 OR 6ft BROAD LOFTS SITTING AGAINST NEAR ENOUGH AGAINST EACH OTHER WITH THE BACK 1 2 FT HIGHER THAN THE FRONT LOFT AND USING THE ROOF OF THE FRONT LOFT AS A LANDING BOARD..MY COUSIN USED TO HAVE HIS LOFTS LIKE THIS AND IT WORKED A TREAT FOR HIM
Roland Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 I have a 16.5 x 10 foot and have the one opening with a little 2 .5 ft passage. There is the length at the back x 4 .5 totally for the y/b's Each side is the 6 x5 and 6 x4( this has 12 and 16 nest boxes respectatively. I go into the Hospital / feed section via side door. All birds - all their lives - use the same trap.
hotrod Posted July 15, 2008 Report Posted July 15, 2008 Their's a guy who makes huts @garages also does pigeon lofts in a place called barrmill in ayrshire the guy's name is mullen. You tell him how you want it he'll make it deliver it and errect it for you .I'll get you the phone number if you like.
Guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Posted July 15, 2008 Ally whats wrong with the loft you have got just now looks the part to me and neat and tidy its what you put in it that counts
DOVEScot Posted July 15, 2008 Report Posted July 15, 2008 I am looking into a new loft. and have about 20 x 12 ft to play with. Any advice on the number of sections etc. and how to make best use of the 12' depth. Should add it needs to look good to keep the boss happy, thats the main reason the old one has to go!! Also someone in Scotland to build and errect would be handy but I could collect it and put it up myself. Al. Mines isn't far of that size, I would go for a 20 x 6 and a 20 x 6 aviary in front of it, all split into four sections, I made the mistake of making it one large aviary, I am now changing that and splitting it into three sections, the aviary has a poly carbon roof to let the max light into the loft.
ally mac Posted July 15, 2008 Author Report Posted July 15, 2008 That looks the part and must be great for the birds. A few wee mods and it would suit me down to the ground. Did you build it your self?
DOVEScot Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 That looks the part and must be great for the birds. A few wee mods and it would suit me down to the ground. Did you build it your self? Aye from the ground up :) Just started next phase of it this week :'( :'( :'( End sections Centre section for YBS Complete with bath
Tony C Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 I think how you design your loft depends on what system you intend racing on. If w/hood I think housing all your pigeons in the one loft would be a mistake.
Guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 I think how you design your loft depends on what system you intend racing on. If w/hood I think housing all your pigeons in the one loft would be a mistake. Hi Tony I can only speak from my experience, I flew widowhood this year with the long races in mind and my hens were in the next section to my cocks and it didn't seem to affect them. However I appreciate for sprint racing it may make a diference?
bewted Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 i think no matter what,who,where,when,how or whatever !!! most important ingredient not to forget is VENTILATION !!!!!
Guest Doade Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 Ally, Here's the guy who built my new one: http://www.millicabin.com/ George ps: just tell him the sizes of the loft. If you have the time you can do the inside layout yourself
ALF Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 Thats where my big loft came from aswell Doade mind you that was about 15 yrs ago now
Guest Doade Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 Alf, he gave me the choice of weatherboard thickness etc etc. I took the 15mm. Just asked him to make me a 14 x 8 pent roof/door in middle at front. He made a great job of it. I made all the nest boxes etc myself. Mind you its not racers I have it pouters of various sorts, so made to suit my own taste. George
ALF Posted July 16, 2008 Report Posted July 16, 2008 When i went with my uncle who originally purchased the lofts from Milligans they actually raced doos themselves so knew exactly what we were talking about so that made it a lot easier and we got exactly what we wanted at the time Alan
ally mac Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Posted July 16, 2008 Frank, sorry I missed your post, I was too busy looking at dovescotes pictures. The loft at the moment lacks decent ventilation I think. It also has concrete floors without any dpc. I am not sure but I think it maybe retains a bit of damp. The roof is also just a bit low and I have to stoop when inside. George. I couldnt remeber, I thought you had maybe built your own. I will get a drawing together and get in touch with the chap that did yours. I take it you are happy with it. Al.
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