Snfc Not Looking To Good

[Guest IB]

I don't fancy crossing the North Sea, but I have wondered about a North race - from Lerwick, sea crossing = 150 miles - which would just about reverse the norms we have in National racing just now:

 

North Section - 1st drop,shortest fliers.

South Section - Last drop,longest fliers.

 

The other one is the Faroes. Would trade them in place of Inland Nationals anytime. 6 water races, 2 North, 4 South.

[Fair Play]

Most of the birds that fly great distances over water have webbed feet

[dal2]

emil mccartons gold cup winner was clocked flying just over 13 hours north section winner not clocked till third day if it were with his winner it then travelled at 8mph from then on to get home blodder versus racer rest my case goodnight

 

Ye that'll get some revved up Mike!! Have had this discussion many times and it turns oot that we have different type of birds doon here!! We still win at the distance just not enough distance

[Guest IB]

Ye that'll get some revved up Mike!! Have had this discussion many times and it turns oot that we have different type of birds doon here!! We still win at the distance just not enough distance

 

That's why I reckon 2010 program from Reims and Bourges are ideal distances in that they provide minimum 500 & 600 mile racing for everyone in Scotland. Hope we have the foresight to stick with them.

[dal2]

That's why I reckon 2010 program from Reims and Bourges are ideal distances in that they provide minimum 500 & 600 mile racing for everyone in Scotland. Hope we have the foresight to stick with them.

 

 

You can still gan 600+ miles without heading into Belgium IB?. Today there are a lot of fanciers that like the inland nats and are members of the SNFC and should be catered for. Lets not get hung up on thinkin that if your birds are not made for, or you have not set them up for, 600+miles that these pigeons are in some way inferior to others. Its horses for courses for me!!

[lanarkshire lad]

That's why I reckon 2010 program from Reims and Bourges are ideal distances in that they provide minimum 500 & 600 mile racing for everyone in Scotland. Hope we have the foresight to stick with them.

Agree 100% too much chopping and changing these days.

[Guest bigda]

glad there has been someone, on here saying its unfair racing in the national.

 

 

[JADE]

glad there has been someone, on here saying its unfair racing in the national.

 

if you are referring to my post what i said was you will never get a level playing field in doo racing. and that includes club, federation or whatever.

[Guest bigda]

if you are referring to my post what i said was you will never get a level playing field in doo racing. and that includes club, federation or whatever.

 

 

yep just as i thought,you said there is unfair racing in the national and has to be addressed

[Guest bigda]

was talking to members who where asking me the cost of a geraldy, i said they varied but the one most suited for the national with a sleeping section

is a 80 basket and remote control curtain, fully fitted to a 7.5 ton flat bed, it would be £35,000 and a good truck would set you back £20,000 all in all with 40 extra baskets would cost the national £55,000

and the money they would get from the race haulage on the first year would reduce the cost by

£8,000 so the first year the transporter would have cost £47,000 these transporters can be ready in six week, you can also get a cheaper version of truck and kit out a 90 basket takes up to 2,600 birds

don't settle for anything less guys its you dough

bigda here to help you all as is

[Guest bigda]

not taking a pop, at the nat but should you leave it any later, they can also kit out a transit van for who ever is left

[JADE]

not taking a pop, at the nat but should you leave it any later, they can also kit out a transit van for who ever is left

 

think you should sort your own fed out before losing sleep over the national

[Guest bigda]

think you should sort your own fed out before losing sleep over the national

 

 

jade do you not want the national to go to the bank and take out some of the members moneys and buy a new truck, are you not for that, do you want to keep the members for another few years on the mooch

[alec guinness]

think you have worn this one out danny boy. ;)

[Guest bigda]

think you have worn this one out danny boy.

 

 

only asking are the members happy with the money

not been spent on a new truck, i get the feeling should any one say anything about it, the likes of clocky on here keeping stum, in fear of what Houston might read on here, 3 years of Houston's wages will buy you a truck, there you go

[walterbmasson]

emil mccartons gold cup winner was clocked flying just over 13 hours north section winner not clocked till third day if it were with his winner it then travelled at 8mph from then on to get home blodder versus racer rest my case goodnight

SORRY I COULD NOT REPLY TO YOUR POST I COULD NOT GET BACK TILL TODAY BUT I MUST REPLY TO YOUR POST DO YOU REALY THINK 13 HRS IS A GOOD NATIONAL WINNER IF THEY CANT DO THAT DISTANCE THERE IN THE BUCKET ------ BUT YOU DONT LIKE TO FLY OVER WATER TO BE ON AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD AND A 500 TO 600 MILES (BUT YOU WOULD CONCIDER GOING FURTHER INTO FRANCE NERER SPAIN WITH MORE HEAT AND ADD ANOTHER 100 MILES ON TO THE FURTHEST FLYING BIRDS I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOUS THAT THINK LIKE THIS YOU COULD NOT MAKE IT UP SITTING ROUND A TABLE WITH 1/2 DOZEN 40 OZ SCOTTISH MALTS )AND IB YOU ARE JOKING SAYING A RACE FROM LERWICK WHERE DO YOU GET 150 FIRST DROP 90 MILES FROM FRASERBURGH WE WOULD BE BREEDING A LOT OF YOUNGSTERS FOR THIS 1 AND BIGDA THERE WAS A BIG KITTY RAISED FOR A LORRY FOR SNFC PLENTY FOR A STATE OF THE ARTS AND YOUR RIGHT DANNY 80 BASKETS THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING REDUCE SOME MORE WALTERBMASSON AS IT IS

[dal2]

You only need tae gan tae Bourges tae get 600miles in the south

[yeboah]

SORRY I COULD NOT REPLY TO YOUR POST I COULD NOT GET BACK TILL TODAY BUT I MUST REPLY TO YOUR POST DO YOU REALY THINK 13 HRS IS A GOOD NATIONAL WINNER IF THEY CANT DO THAT DISTANCE THERE IN THE BUCKET ------ BUT YOU DONT LIKE TO FLY OVER WATER TO BE ON AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD AND A 500 TO 600 MILES (BUT YOU WOULD CONCIDER GOING FURTHER INTO FRANCE NERER SPAIN WITH MORE HEAT AND ADD ANOTHER 100 MILES ON TO THE FURTHEST FLYING BIRDS I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOUS THAT THINK LIKE THIS YOU COULD NOT MAKE IT UP SITTING ROUND A TABLE WITH 1/2 DOZEN 40 OZ SCOTTISH MALTS )AND IB YOU ARE JOKING SAYING A RACE FROM LERWICK WHERE DO YOU GET 150 FIRST DROP 90 MILES FROM FRASERBURGH WE WOULD BE BREEDING A LOT OF YOUNGSTERS FOR THIS 1 AND BIGDA THERE WAS A BIG KITTY RAISED FOR A LORRY FOR SNFC PLENTY FOR A STATE OF THE ARTS AND YOUR RIGHT DANNY 80 BASKETS THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING REDUCE SOME MORE WALTERBMASSON AS IT IS

any national win is a good one,there were only three on the night from that one and a very very good one into the west section early next morning,question is where were the rest

[Guest IB]

You can still gan 600+ miles without heading into Belgium IB?. Today there are a lot of fanciers that like the inland nats and are members of the SNFC and should be catered for. Lets not get hung up on thinkin that if your birds are not made for, or you have not set them up for, 600+miles that these pigeons are in some way inferior to others. Its horses for courses for me!!

 

Steven, either I've misunderstood your post that I replied to (the one saying '(borders) has not enough distance to fly') or you've understood my reply.

 

I wasn't talking about dropping inland nationals, I was suggesting that SNFC race programme should give Borders a race at 500 miles minimum (Reims) and 600 miles minimum (Bourges). That's enough distance for you I hope. And I thought both these racepoints were in France.

[walterbmasson]

YEBOAH HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN ON THIS SITE FANCIERS SAYING THEY WANT DISTANCE WITH THERE BIRDS NOW THERES AN OPTION TO DO JUST THAT AND GIVE THERE BIRDS A GO OF WINNING A GREAT NATIONAL EVENT ALL CROSSING THE SAME WATER AND FIRST BIRD IN THE CLOCK A WORTHY WINNER GET THE BIRDS UP AT 5 TO 5 -30 THIS BIS THE WAY TO GET ALL LONG DISTANCE MENS BLOOD FLOWING JUST AT THE THOUGHT OF TIMING A BIRD FROM SUCH A RACE KNOW IF THIS WAS TO HAPPEN I WOULD SEND THE LOT TO THIS KIND OF RACE PERFECT DISTANCE ONE YEAR BOB WHYTE SENT 12 TO RENNES 661MLS AND I SENT 16 ONE OF THE WORST RACES EVER IN FACT A DISASTER WITH SNFC BUT WE DIDNT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT BUT JUST TALKING ABOUT A 290 MILES OF WATER IS MAKING YOU SHAKE IN YER BOOTS VERY STRANGE FOR THEM THAT WANTS TO COMPETE AGAINST THE BEST

[yeboah]

YEBOAH HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN ON THIS SITE FANCIERS SAYING THEY WANT DISTANCE WITH THERE BIRDS NOW THERES AN OPTION TO DO JUST THAT AND GIVE THERE BIRDS A GO OF WINNING A GREAT NATIONAL EVENT ALL CROSSING THE SAME WATER AND FIRST BIRD IN THE CLOCK A WORTHY WINNER GET THE BIRDS UP AT 5 TO 5 -30 THIS BIS THE WAY TO GET ALL LONG DISTANCE MENS BLOOD FLOWING JUST AT THE THOUGHT OF TIMING A BIRD FROM SUCH A RACE KNOW IF THIS WAS TO HAPPEN I WOULD SEND THE LOT TO THIS KIND OF RACE PERFECT DISTANCE ONE YEAR BOB WHYTE SENT 12 TO RENNES 661MLS AND I SENT 16 ONE OF THE WORST RACES EVER IN FACT A DISASTER WITH SNFC BUT WE DIDNT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT BUT JUST TALKING ABOUT A 290 MILES OF WATER IS MAKING YOU SHAKE IN YER BOOTS VERY STRANGE FOR THEM THAT WANTS TO COMPETE AGAINST THE BEST

if your willing to send your birds to be liberated in a falcon infested country and then have them fly over 290 miles of open sea please go ahead i for one will not be taking part as i find even the thought of it a no brain er

[dal2]

Steven, either I've misunderstood your post that I replied to (the one saying '(borders) has not enough distance to fly') or you've understood my reply.

 

I wasn't talking about dropping inland nationals, I was suggesting that SNFC race programme should give Borders a race at 500 miles minimum (Reims) and 600 miles minimum (Bourges). That's enough distance for you I hope. And I thought both these racepoints were in France.

 

No I understood IB and have nae probs wae the distance but reims is not wot I really want in terms of direction favouring more central like laferte Bernard, Lemans. I feel this is the middle ground between the rennes,sartilly route and the East one. My comment on the inland nats was not a reply to your post and just an opinion that a lot of fanciers keep and train there birds for the 350-450 mile races. This is their prerogative and I feel they are sometimes made to feel inferior compared to a 500-600 mile racers.JMO

Sorry for any confusion

[walterbmasson]

if your willing to send your birds to be liberated in a falcon infested country and then have them fly over 290 miles of open sea please go ahead i for one will not be taking part as i find even the thought of it a no brain er

YEBOAH DINA TELL ME ABOUT FALCONS THEY A WY HERE NOW FAS THE NA BRAINER THERES BOPS FA THERE LET UP IN FRANCE TILL THEY ARE IN THERE LOFTS DIV YE NA THINK I HIVNA BEEN IN NORWAY MAN HUNDREDS OF TIMES THEY WINA SURVIVE THE WINTERS BIT AGAIN AN EITHER EXCUSE FAR DE YE BIDE AT BIT AT WINA BE A MISS YOU NA COMPETING IF YER SHAKING IN YER BOOTS JUST READING A POST FIT THE POSTS ABOUT THE SNFC NA LOOKING TO GOOD BIT I AM SURE OUR NEAR BROTHERS IN THE NEWCASTLE AREA WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART IN A ANNUAL BRITISH CLASSIC OPEN TO ALL 550 TO 600+ MILERS MEDIA WOULD GET INVOLVED PAPERS TV ETC JUST 1 EVENT A YEAR COULD CHANGE THE WAY OF RACING PIGEONS AND GET MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED NOT THE FIRST DROPS IN THE CLOCK 6HRS BEFORE ANY CHANCE OF BIRDS FLYING THE FURTHEST NO BRAINER YOUR A COMEDIAN IN YE DINA KEN

[Guest bigda]

hi Walter, i never knew there was money collected for a new transporter, and i am sure the Pilgrims would love to know the score , never heard clocky mention this before, just how much was raised for your kitty Walter, have you any idea as to how much was raised. if you get a new transporter i might even consider joining yous for the last few remaining years a 80 bird basket truck will hold 2,000 to 2,240 birds a 90 bird basket will hold 2,520 - 2600 maybe jade will

be able to enlighten you Walter

[walterbmasson]

WELL DANNY I CAN TELL YOU THERE WAS A VAST OF MONEY RAISED FOR A NEW TRANSPORTER AND THAT IS A FACT SALES WERE HELD COLLECTIONS ETC BUT I WOULD BE TELLING A LIE IF I QUOATED A FIGURE BUT I WOULD BE IN THE SAFE SIDE SAING 50.000+ BUT SOME MEMBERS THAT WENT TO THE AGMS WOULD TELL YOU MORE BUT I COULD FIND OUT AND LET YOU KNOW THE MORN BUT IAM SURE THE OLD MEMBERS WILL POST BEFORE THEN