How Far From The House?

[FoxesFan4Ever]

Hi all,

 

I know all councils are different but can anyone tell me how far from a house a loft should be please?

 

I only have a smallish garden which is already quite full with my other loft but I am getting a new one fro my stock birds and will be wanting to put an aviary on it as well.

 

I have 3 options, 1 is quite close to my house and the next door house but has the advantage of already being concreted , 2 is likely to block light from the old peoples bungalows and 3 will back onto the local park which is probably the best but I dont want the local dwarves disturbing the birds by throwing stuff etc although have to say we dont get a lot of hassle really round here.

 

So, as ever, all advice gratefully received and thanks in advance

[Tony C]

If at all possible I'd erect it where the loft would be facing the early morning sun

 

 

ps If your council have a website whats allowed and whats not should be on there.

[greenlands]

Might be some info on here,if pos face the loft South East.

 

 

http://www.agardenbuilding.co.uk/planning-permission-for-garden-buildings.html

 

Lindsay.

[gladiator lofts]

Hi all,

 

I know all councils are different but can anyone tell me how far from a house a loft should be please?

 

I only have a smallish garden which is already quite full with my other loft but I am getting a new one fro my stock birds and will be wanting to put an aviary on it as well.

 

I have 3 options, 1 is quite close to my house and the next door house but has the advantage of already being concreted , 2 is likely to block light from the old peoples bungalows and 3 will back onto the local park which is probably the best but I dont want the local dwarves disturbing the birds by throwing stuff etc although have to say we dont get a lot of hassle really round here.

 

So, as ever, all advice gratefully received and thanks in advance

 

talk to your neighbours and find out how they feel tell them that your stock birds need a little more room to breed and that they will not be flying out keep loft loww so as not to be above fence as its your neighbours who will probably inform council dom mccoy

[blaz]

5 meters from house

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

SIX FOOT FROM YOUR HOUSE AND NINE AND A HALF INCHES OF THE GROUND .///

[airdrie2]

check with your local council to be on the save side

[Guest youngboy]

i fancier lives over road from me and when you step outside his back door his loft is right there but i think it depends on neighbours?

[tommyc]

no good the council saying the loft should be say 5mtrs away if your garden is only small . i called the local planning ofice and ask them to email me details etc

i fancier lives over road from me and when you step outside his back door his loft is right there but i think it depends on neighbours?

[REDCHEQHEN]

Apply for planning permission - and then there's no problem if passed

[OLDYELLOW]

Apply for planning permission - and then there's no problem if passed

Pigeon lofts come under none perminant structures , however you can only build to a certain size , my council states that all pigeon houses are to be 1 meter away from all boundarys ( i believe this is for fire control ) , the distance from the house i believe has to be 15 foot ( not 100% sure on this distance ) , however i had to submit a detailed plan of the proposed development , which included the whole back garden grided out in size with all structures present and the proposed site for the loft on the garden , all of which i have kept to cover myself for future reference , it was passed as didnt want to build to be told permision wasent granted and would have to be removed if someone complained , even if one is considering converting an existing building such as a garage or shed a change of use application has to be made , i know there be plenty of lofts around with no permision , but better to get things right then you have a better legal footing without getting supprised and upset with a removal order

[Guest shadow]

must be 5 metres from the house

[blaz]

the reson it is 5 meters from house for wooden lofts or garden huts with most councils .is for fire protection of the house.

FACT

[ovy1255]

was under the impresion that all these structures -temp was covered under new regs ,town/country planning set out by government which states that they con be attached to house must be inside your boundary by 1.5 meters at this point not to exceed 2meters in height but can be higher as you go onto your property .the proposed development including any other temp structures must not cover more than 50% of your garden.think this was for property you own .ask your homing union for help as if like ours agreements to keep pigeons was agreed -possible limitations on times you let your doos out ,only if the nosy c-w next door puts a letter into council.

[scottym7]

5 meters from house, 1 meter from boundary and no more than 27sq meter si what i was told

[ovy1255]

Planning Permission

Rules governing outbuildings apply to sheds, greenhouses and garages as well as other ancillary garden buildings such as swimming pools, ponds, sauna cabins, kennels, enclosures (including tennis courts) and many other kinds of structure for a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the dwellinghouse.

 

Other rules relate to the installation of a satellite dish, the erection of a new dwelling or the erection or provision of fuel storage tanks.

 

Under new regulations that came into effect on 1 October 2008 outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

 

•No outbuilding on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation.

•Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.

•Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse.

•No verandas, balconies or raised platforms.

•No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.

•In National Parks, the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and World Heritage Sites the maximum area to be covered by buildings, enclosures, containers and pools more than 20 metres from house to be limited to 10 square metres.

•On designated land* buildings, enclosures, containers and pools at the side of properties will require planning permission.

•Within the curtilage of listed buildings any outbuilding will require planning permission.

 

 

*The term "original house" means the house as it was first built or as it stood on 1 July 1948 (if it was built before that date). Although you may not have built an extension to the house, a previous owner may have done so.

 

*Designated land includes national parks and the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty, conservation areas and World Heritage Sites.

 

Please note: the permitted development allowances described here apply to houses not flats, maisonettes or other buildings. View guidance on flats and maisonettes here.

 

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If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres and contains NO sleeping accommodation.

 

If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building contains NO sleeping accommodation and is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.

 

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[Guest IB]

The legislation that covers this doesn't say anything about distance from the house. It's treated just like a garden shed, limited to a certain size, and garden sheds can be at your back door. In a previous house, I had an oil storage tank for central heating at my back door, and these are covered in the same legislation. Go to page 6 'permitted development' Class E:-

 

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2008/2362/pdfs/uksi_20082362_en.pdf

 

 

IMO the restrictions mentioned in some posts probably apply to lofts bigger than Class E size, that were imposed because they needed Planning Permission for the loft.

[ovy1255]

Planning Portal - Statutory Instruments

SI 2010 654 - The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) (England) Order 2010. This order amends the GPDO 1995 to ...

planningportal.gov.uk/england/​government/policy/.../si - 57k - Cached

[ovy1255]

Join your homing union in your area and allow them to help.

[Guest homestead]

ovy1255 your spot on...and you can cover 50% of your land includes front, side and back garden and i'm sure there's no limit from the house

[Guest bakes]

asked neighbours was ok with them asked landlord ok with him as its misses oldman got in contact with council asked they come out spoken to misses dad said you ok with it said yes i am inspector said you got no probs my lofts are 10ft from house all inspector said was if you put lofts up over 12ft wide you will need to apply for planning permission but he did say nothink stopping you haveing a row of lofts say eight fut by 6ft wide a gap then another eight fut by 6ft and then a bigger loft as longas its not one construction that goes over 12ft i can keep adding lofts as much as i wont its all up to the landlord which oldman said i havent got prob but as my house is private i dont no if its different for someone living in council house and its different in different areas

no a mate got loft 6ft from house 10fter small gap then another 10fter then gap then an other 10ft so 30 ft of lofts but gaps between and he didnt need planning permission plus got permission different areas different permission i suppose.

all best.

[ovy1255]

i am sure all councils in england must bow to town/country planning of the government ,like we can have club rules as long as they dont contravene union rules

was a case in homeing world where a guy was told to remove his lofts or council will at his cost----to cut long story shortsolicitor got him awarded damages plus his lofts stayed .plus one story of guy applying to allotment association to extend his lofts was told he had to reduce there size.homeing union got involved ,guy flew the channel so needed to quarentine birds undergovernment law -anyway was allowed his extension plus more.

[Guest newcomer]

Do yourself a big favor, look on the internet under your local council web site and if you file through all the information you will find a section that gives you all the information you need for tempery buildings. When it comes to restrictions it is usually the height of the building and the height off the ground, but not always, as each council seems to have their own rules. If you can build to the height restrictions as in my case as we have here you can have a loft any size you want as it does not come under the planning laws. The height restriction in my area is from the highest ground level to the peak of the roof of the construction. I feel that really reading the site and planning sites is the safest way to go, because phoning them is sometimes no help as it is a case of who you talk to if you know what I mean, also if you are going the whole hog and applying for planning permission make sure you make a note of the persons name and time you spoke to them about which ever bit of information you require, as it is strange that in my case nobody could remember our conversations and I had two different bits of advice from two different enforcement officers. Again I say go to the web site find the restrictions and build the loft to them and then it is up to you what you want and what shape and how far from the boundaries it can be and silly neighbors’ complaints can go fizz, best of luck and if you need any further advice just pm me.