Guest bigda Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 walter it would suit every flyer you would get a time of 13hrs on the wing up at 5am home for 6 pmat 513 mile, and glasgow at 363 mile would have to do it in 9hrs home for 2pm to beat you and thats flying at 40 mph what you thing of that walter 4hrs to get of the glasgow boys
walterbmasson Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 west wind would put them out at sea walter most of the journey, and your birds would end up on the east coast at about montrose area, when heading home me thinks ON THE SNOOT DANNY
Guest bigda Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 ON THE SNOOT DANNY never seemed to bother you before walter, when the glasgow boys get it that way all the time in the nat
walterbmasson Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 DANNY GET YOUR CALCULATOR OOT FOR THE WHOLE UNITED KINGDOM THE ONLY RACE POINT IS OSLO PUT DISTANCES UP INCLUDING THE UP NORTH COMBINE AND MAKE IT UNITED KINGDOM COMBINE WHAT A RACE JUST TO COMPETE IN DANNY
bewted Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 DANNY GET YOUR CALCULATOR OOT FOR THE WHOLE UNITED KINGDOM THE ONLY RACE POINT IS OSLO PUT DISTANCES UP INCLUDING THE UP NORTH COMBINE AND MAKE IT UNITED KINGDOM COMBINE WHAT A RACE JUST TO COMPETE IN DANNY it was talked about a race like this before on pigeonbasics,,,,,,,as usual nothing ever comes out of it,,,,but,must admit,brilliant idea if ever got off the ground and would make me think of keeping pigeons again with such a race to go for !!! good luck with it all ! regards ted
Roland Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 even better race from germany and open it to all of uk. Yep a good post. I for one would definately send. I know it would mean letting an nglish man in etc. so can't see it Happening. Likewise the West middle of Ireland is very fair to the English regards distances. Always dreamed of a Race from Moscow, which in reality would be better, and more accomindating that Rome ever was.
walterbmasson Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 YES TED IT WAS TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR MOST FANCIERS WANT TO FLY THE DISTANCE THERE ALL GETTING 5OOMILES TO 550MILES SOME COULD GET 600+ BUT YOU GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT DISTANCE WITH A OBSTICAL IN THE WAY NORTH SEA BUMP BUMP BUMP
geordie1234 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 i believe big races like Germany and the likes are what will bring people back to the pigeon game and promote the sport more can you imagine like a uk national what would the birdages be they would be massive
bewted Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 i believe big races like Germany and the likes are what will bring people back to the pigeon game and promote the sport more can you imagine like a uk national what would the birdages be they would be massive if it was all actually got off the ground and started,,,,,,fantastic,but,will it all be just talk like everything else,,,,,,,,as said,fanciers are there own worse enemies !!!
geordie1234 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 well see in this sport who is actually the decision makers who has the power to make the call surely the governing bodies know whats been sed on the forums and know thereselve whats needed why is nothing done to promote the sport to make it popular again
airdrie2 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 cause most pigeon boys dont agree with each other and wont work with each other even in premoting the sport the self destruct sindrum
Guest bigda Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 it could be done with the aid of 6 good menwould be the only time the papers would be interested in the sport if they knew we where flying for 20 k
bewted Posted October 3, 2010 Report Posted October 3, 2010 it could be done with the aid of 6 good menwould be the only time the papers would be interested in the sport if they knew we where flying for 20 k trouble is finding 6 good men who will agree to doing it all bigda !!
Guest bigda Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 here are some distances from skibereento manchester 324mile to london 395mileto grimbsby 411 mile to swansea 226 mile to plymouth 236 mile to newcastle 392 mile now as you can all see there aint much in it for every one
blaz Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Posted October 4, 2010 hypothetically speaking if their was an open race from one of the race points in France say alencon for example. open to all members of any recognized pigeon club in Scotland. whare all money generated was used for transport conveyor diesel ect all that was left was put up for prize money would you send any birds to a race set up like this. SO THE QUESTION IS WOULD YOU SEND BIRDS TO A RACE LIKE THIS. THANKS
Henrik Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 hypothetically speaking if their was an open race from one of the race points in France say alencon for example. open to all members of any recognized pigeon club in Scotland. whare all money generated was used for transport conveyor diesel ect all that was left was put up for prize money would you send any birds to a race set up like this. SO THE QUESTION IS WOULD YOU SEND BIRDS TO A RACE LIKE THIS. THANKSNo
Guest bigda Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 looking at the fairest race point in all for UK racing it has to be Ireland on 3 accounts 1 easy to get to and 2 the wind favor's all fliers, and 3 there are no one getting any advantage whats so everto prove it to you have a look at the map of Ireland now this will scramble your head as to why this in in our best interest to fly from theretake sckibereen for example from there to say London is 393 mile to the centernow take the race from London Derry to London and you will find the distance there is then 383milenow from top of Ireland to the bottom of it is 10 mile of a difference so it lets you all see flying in to the UK there has no one got any march on the other have a look at it for your self. and to me it looks a far safer and faster racing area to fly from and the whole of the lanarkshire fed should they choose skibereen or gallway there is only 2mile of overfly available to any one member don't knowif its a fear factor or not with pigeon men but i say for the few remaining years we have left its worth a go as a open ,in some sort of a way
Guest bigda Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 looks like it blaz, till you get rid of the coffin dodgers, from committee's its status quoam afraid, hopefully there will be changes at the next agms its no good asking them a hard questionas for some, they couldn't tell you if there shoes where hurting them
frank-123 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 hypothetically speaking if their was an open race from one of the race points in France say alencon for example. open to all members of any recognized pigeon club in Scotland. whare all money generated was used for transport conveyor diesel ect all that was left was put up for prize money would you send any birds to a race set up like this. SO THE QUESTION IS WOULD YOU SEND BIRDS TO A RACE LIKE THIS. THANKS NO
bewted Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 yes and no and maybe,,,its all starting on here with against and fors,,,,,so how can you expect everything else to go good for a once in a lifetime race that might give the sport of pigeon racing a bit more credibility than its got now,,,,,,,,as said,fanciers are there own worse enemies and wont agree to anything all together just for once,,,,,,,,no wonder the sport is dying very quick in the uk,,,,,,and percy helping them to a demise to quicker,,,,,,come on lads,,,,just once in your lifes have some ba**s and put together one big mighty race !!!that includes any fancier inside uk all fanciers need ba**s to stand up and for once on this god forsaken earth and counted as one !!! BEFORE THE END COMES QUICKER THAN YOU ALL IMAGINE,,,,,NO OFFENCE INTENDED OR APPLIED !!! REGARDS TED
Roland Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 Snap, Yes of course. One big failing as history has proven, is that 'Merit' is under sold for a few pence. Has, and is the biggest killer of our sport, where the few able have been squeezing the no hopers of every pence that they could and have! Regardless how good a fancier is, mostly the wind decides where the winning location will be. Bigda made a statement that Ireland - which I also stated - IS THE FAIREST to all. Distance wise it is of course. Now will be a darn site harder for any Scottish loft to beat me in a North west or any west in the wind Especially as I may well be flying a tad shorter than better flyers! Now, like the Faros and Rome races the prestige - in my view - far out weighs any monetary gain! Of course it does. That is why some feds are sending each week more than most Nationals! Because they have got sharp to the fact that wasting £10 say on sending, and £10 on pooling will be, and is a darn site better, more logical than give to those better positioned. Is also the reason why many struggle to get on these committees to help, and are just a waste of time as they are out manoeuvred and out voted by those already in place lining and feathering their own nest. I.e. Get bigger and wider fronts to put their money into OUR coffers! Whereas if they had, did, or would have better and fairer section allowing decent and often better birds than those that actually winner the merit these birds deserve, then the nationals would have an almighty upsurge. But would mean smaller money for those bettered positioned.... though of course the winners would still be in the same locations. Why corridor fly chasing into the wind of the Liberation site would be a fairer and more intriguing aspect for 80% more of the fancy.
blaz Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Posted October 4, 2010 with 2 saying no give up the chase with 2 saying yes on 1st page and myself saying yes thats 3 2. with this being only a hypothetical idea to have an open race from race point in France. open to all members of any recognized club in Scotland.with no input from any members of any of the nationals committees apart from yes i would send or no i would not.with all excess money being put up as prize money and open to any member of a recognized club in Scotland.i am surprised that more members have not answered if they would send or not.as for any s.h.u not wanting to race against r,p,r,a.members or vice versa then that is that members choice.with this being only an idea and open to any member of a club in Scotland with the bilkers off and differences aside look at the bigger picture of a race like this.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 hypothetically speaking if their was an open race from one of the race points in France say alencon for example. open to all members of any recognized pigeon club in Scotland. whare all money generated was used for transport conveyor diesel ect all that was left was put up for prize money would you send any birds to a race set up like this. SO THE QUESTION IS WOULD YOU SEND BIRDS TO A RACE LIKE THIS. THANKS Hi Gary Would have to be a no from me, I treat tickets from France with the SNFC as if they are made out of Gold. Any race from the channel to Scotland is hard enough and if I have pigeons to send i in turn want there performance to mean something. cheersGareth
blaz Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Posted October 4, 2010 Hi Gary Would have to be a no from me, I treat tickets from France with the SNFC as if they are made out of Gold. Any race from the channel to Scotland is hard enough and if I have pigeons to send i in turn want there performance to mean something. cheersGareth now that what i am after a good honest reply cheers
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