Snfc/Snrpc

[sapper756]

Here in Scotland we now have 2 seperate national clubs, do members feel their is a need for 2? if not, what can be done to unite the national fanciers of Scotland once again?

 

Are there any benefits of having 2 national clubs in one area?

 

Please keep this thread to topic, and lets hear some of your opinions and views regarding this situation, and please respect the views of others, even if they differ from yoursehttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

 

 

Thank you

[JohnJ]

i would love two see them as one nat i live in hope

[Guest bigda]

there will aways be 2 as they prefer it that way, as them at the top can win a bag of feeding in one, and in the other they can sell,

if it where down to me i would have 2 one as a east nat, and the other as a west national

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Here in Scotland we now have 2 seperate national clubs, do members feel their is a need for 2? if not, what can be done to unite the national fanciers of Scotland once again?

 

Are there any benefits of having 2 national clubs in one area?

 

Please keep this thread to topic, and lets hear some of your opinions and views regarding this situation, and please respect the views of others, even if they differ from yourse

 

 

Thank you

 

You should no better posting this topic, always leads to trouble.

 

Anyhow my point of view is that there is only one real National in Scotland, although at present it could be seen by some that there are two. Within a few years falling membership and rising costs it will mean that once again we are back to having the whole of Scotland back flying under the greatest club in Britian - the "Scottish National Flying Club"

 

 

 

remember without competition we have nothing.

[JohnJ]

there will aways be 2 as they prefer it that way, as them at the top can win a bag of feeding in one, and in the other the can sell,

if it where down to me i would have 2 one as a east nat, and the other as a west national the time is comin that there will only one nat cause cost will force it on them

[sapper756]

You should no better posting this topic, http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gifalways leads to trouble.

Anyhow my point of view is that there is only one real National in Scotland, although at present it could be seen by some that there are two. Within a few years falling membership and rising costs it will mean that once again we are back to having the whole of Scotland back flying under the greatest club in Britian - the "Scottish National Flying Club"

 

 

If this does happen Gareth, then I will request admin to remove the thread, so it,s upto the members to have their say without offending othershttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

 

 

remember without competition we have nothing.

[Henrik]

Ther is only one True National in Scotland the SNFC. The other "national" was founded to allow 4 suspended members of the SHU somewhere to fly from .

[Guest IB]

I voted 'No'. A few years back I would have said 'yes' until I was made aware of depth of feeling against it. I think two clubs are here to stay, although I believe it would be better for Scottish Fancy if there was only one National club.

[VMS]

If the any union rule was to be adopted,i believe the path would then be open to have one club.Is that really that much to ask.????????????

[dal2]

Surely it would be better if everybody flew together at nat level. As a younger memeber of the SNFC it will be the only course of action eventually. I am sure that the SNRPC would wish participation from the south so that the mantle of national would sit better while the SNFC should be looking to take the club forward with membership and transportation issues being at the fore.

JMO Steven

[shotgun tim]

id hope for just 1 what is the point in 2 nationals flying the same day from the same lib site????????? it dont realy matter to me anymore though

[blaz]

the 2 nationals to form in to one and all the federations on or in the borders of pentland fed to form in to one . would be great racing but would never happen. it would be like Celtic and rangers getting together to make one team or hearts and hibs for that matter.

[sammy]

think there is a lot more to worry about in pigeon racing than two natioanls comming together think it would be better if ALL PIGEON FANCIERS PULLED THE SAME WAY TO SAVE OR SPORT/HOBBY FROM DYING COMPLETELY

[sapper756]

think there is a lot more to worry about in pigeon racing than two natioanls comming together think it would be better if ALL PIGEON FANCIERS PULLED THE SAME WAY TO SAVE OR SPORT/HOBBY FROM DYING COMPLETELY http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

 

 

very true sammyhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[dal2]

think there is a lot more to worry about in pigeon racing than two natioanls comming together think it would be better if ALL PIGEON FANCIERS PULLED THE SAME WAY TO SAVE OR SPORT/HOBBY FROM DYING COMPLETELY

DAMN RIGHT

[gulkie]

hear hear sammy truer words never spoken.

[doomaloon]

i joined and flew in my first national this year and going to the marking station in aberdeen and seeing how much work goes into the orginisation of the whole affair was a big eye opener to me.standing in line with some of scotlands top distance men was a great feeling and knowing that my doos were competing against them really brought it home that this was the dogs baz in racing yet i had a nagging feeling that it could be so much bigger and so much better if every national flyer in scotland was at the race.i dont know how the split occured and to be frank im not interested as up here in elgin it is a bit of a doo backwater as far as pigeon politics are concerned but i will say this.the sport in scotland needs as many boys pulling in the same direction as it can and people need to put the past behind them for the greater good of this fantastic sport. by the way i put 3 to ypre and im still looking.ill be back

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Can't really see any benefit at all in making small birdages smaller.

 

I don't know overly much about the reasons for the split but in today's sport its quite sad clubs are dividing instead of uniting(that also applies to fed racing)

 

There are fantastic fanciers in both clubs and some of the performances over the last while in the SNFC and in the SNRPC since its formation have been immense.Its just a shame they weren't against ALL the fanciers who want to race at National level in Scotland.

 

ONE NATION,ONE NATIONAL!!

[blaz]

would it be posibil for members of both nationals to put it to a vote by their members at their AGM meeting (think thats right AGM) would this be posibil. new to nat racing so don,t know

[Guest bigda]

if you allow dual membership, you will always have 2 nationals, where as, if you take the stance now, to save what you have, and insist that you only have 1 membereship to a union, and have only the one option open, then i think in a year of that applying there would only be the one. jmo

[dal2]

would it be posibil for members of both nationals to put it to a vote by their members at their AGM meeting (think thats right AGM) would this be posibil. new to nat racing so don,t know

 

 

Think its a rule change thats required. Or maybe a change of attitude to somethin more proactive for the fancy.

[Guest IB]

if you allow dual membership, you will always have 2 nationals, where as, if you take the stance now, to save what you have, and insist that you only have 1 membereship to a union, and have only the one option open, then i think in a year of that applying there would only be the one. jmo

 

I think you will find what you are suggesting is illegal. People have a right to belong (or not) to any organisation of their choosing.

 

"Freedom of choice", most of us exercise that every day..

[VMS]

if you allow dual membership, you will always have 2 nationals, where as, if you take the stance now, to save what you have, and insist that you only have 1 membereship to a union, and have only the one option open, then i think in a year of that applying there would only be the one. jmo

 

That's nonsense Danny and you know it.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

would it be posibil for members of both nationals to put it to a vote by their members at their AGM meeting (think thats right AGM) would this be posibil. new to nat racing so don,t know

The members of the SNFC in Jan 2009 did have a vote and decided to continue it's alengencies to the SHU and this was by quite a large majority, wether this is right or wrong I don't know but it's no different to members of the NFC having to be members of the RPRA.

[blaz]

I think you will find what you are suggesting is illegal. People have a right to belong (or not) to any organisation of their choosing.

 

"Freedom of choice", most of us exercise that every day..

 

i want to belong to midlothian federation and pentland hills federation

but i can,t as you can,t be a member of both.

 

cheers for reply gareth