2011 Train Only

[sapper756]

Following this seasons many stories of disastrous young bird losses, and many fanciers having to end their season earlier than plannedhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

 

Will anybody be considering only racing a percentage of their 2011 youngsters, and only training out the remainder?

 

Thus, hopefully, guaranteeing some yearlings for the following seasonhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

 

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR INPUThttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[ALF]

TO BE HONEST I'VE LOST MORE IN TRAINING THAN I HAVE RACING

[grizzal]

will try and race the programe with ybs,as

in 2009 only had 2 races before my opp

and lost the ones that did not race as ybs.

thats not saying it was the birds fault could

have been me pushing them to early.

[Guest mick bowler]

If you want to loose less YB next year then plan now! Get a nice team together now and train them thru the winter , clear the route, cant completely clear but every loss is another five not lost next year.

[alex wight]

i,ll be breeding a bigger team and hopefully will have the numbers to race the full programme. I would prefer to have a full team trained reading for being a yearling. However like this year i had to stop early as my numbers depleted somewhat. I have x2 3 year olds, x2 2 year olds a 10 yearlings for next year. As long as i,m able to race thats all i want to do, gutted that ,ve not ben able to race the full programme this year.

[Ian McKay]

Patience Alex it happens to us all :rolleyes:

[alex wight]

Patience Alex it happens to us all :rolleyes:

 

Cheers Ian, it just feels like treading water wi lead wellies on at times but as you say i,ll get there (wherever that is )

[Ian McKay]

Cheers Ian, it just feels like treading water wi lead wellies on at times but as you say i,ll get there (wherever that is )

 

 

I learned a few lessons this year :angry: :angry:

[Guest IB]

Poll is a year too early for me but right now I want to race my 2011 youngsters out. Next year at the end of OB season I will be able to compare results between the 8 yearlings that were raced as YBs in 2010, and the 8 that were trained only. Then I can decide what needs to be done with 2011 youngsters.

 

2010 has been a hard year, I'm left with 10 x OBs, that's 2 x 4 yo, 3 x 3yo and 5 x 2 yo for 2011. 4 of the 2 yo are latebreds, 3 of them trained as yearlings, but not raced, the 4 th trained and given one race. So another two teams to compare.

[dal2]

Birds no raced in the year of their birth generally gan doon like snaw of a dyke

[frank-123]

a female and male percy getting killed by the cold weather in the winter saves

2 of our birds a day that's 14 birds a week over month of june next year that will be 56 birds saved in the month

not to mention the missed strike or panicked birds by the strike

 

so 20 dying

saves 1120 of our birds in the month of june

 

 

so lets hope its the worst winter on record for peregrine falcons

[dal2]

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[frank-123]

most of my youngbirds have had one race but trained so next year will tell me if i done the right thing

last year most of the birds i stopped after three youngbird races went on to race peterbourgh this year 280 miles

[dal2]

most of my youngbirds have had one race but trained so next year will tell me if i done the right thing

last year most of the birds i stopped after three youngbird races went on to race peterbourgh this year 280 miles

 

Yer doin weel then mate. I can only comment on wot I find and am no a big fan o feedin doos a winter that I have nae idea as to their ability

[geordie1234]

some of my youngbirds have trained to twenty and the other only ten im not that happy how much they have been trained but everytime they go on a trainer i always get one back attacked by percy but hopefully get a few more done and ill be left with 17 yearlings next year

[dal2]

some of my youngbirds have trained to twenty and the other only ten im not that happy how much they have been trained but everytime they go on a trainer i always get one back attacked by percy but hopefully get a few more done and ill be left with 17 yearlings next year

 

 

Your a wee bit different mate as that yer just startin. My comments wer aimed at a established loft.

[frank-123]

Yer doin weel then mate. I can only comment on wot I find and am no a big fan o feedin doos a winter that I have nae idea as to their ability

 

just circumstances this year i would have raced more

last year i stopped the naturals and kept the darkness birds going i sent 31 darkie birds to wetherby and got 4 home

 

do they need to be hammered down the road?

 

time will tell for me i have patience to wait and see

 

a bird that went down as a two year old (eastbourne) found in ireland

never raced it as a three year old

scored as a four year old from reims this year

[dal2]

just circumstances this year i would have raced more

last year i stopped the naturals and kept the darkness birds going i sent 31 darkie birds two wetherby and got 4 home

 

do they need to be hammered down the road?

 

time will tell for me i have patience to wait and see

 

a bird that went down as a two year old (eastbourne) found in ireland

never raced it as a three year old

scored as a four year old from reims this year

 

Yer quite right way yer patience but yer doo that came frae reims I am pretty sure would be in the overwhelming minority. Everybody has differing ideas on younguns and how tae race them but personally I would like tae get the majority of my team as far as pos. There are lots of fanciers who dont bother racin younguns but I would bet that there loss percentage would be quite high.

[Guest IB]

some of my youngbirds have trained to twenty and the other only ten im not that happy how much they have been trained but everytime they go on a trainer i always get one back attacked by percy but hopefully get a few more done and ill be left with 17 yearlings next year

 

I've only 1 yearling left that can be said to have flown the OB programme. He was given 4 x 10 mile trainers as a YB in 2009 before being hit and was stopped for the rest of the year.

 

In 2010 he was trained and raced to Leicester 257 miles, before being hit again, he actually collapsed on arrival home, I'd to pick him up off floor and take him to the drinker, then put him to his box. He was rested, recovered, trained and sent Ypres 449 miles. I got him the next morning, it was blowing a gale & pouring with rain.

[dal2]

I've only 1 yearling left that can be said to have flown the OB programme. He was given 4 x 10 mile trainers as a YB in 2009 before being hit and was stopped for the rest of the year.

 

In 2010 he was trained and raced to Leicester 257 miles, before being hit again, he actually collapsed on arrival home, I'd to pick him up off floor and take him to the drinker, then put him to his box. He was rested, recovered, trained and sent Ypres 449 miles. I got him the next morning, it was blowing a gale & pouring with rain.

 

Aye true guts

 

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[Guest bakes]

i voted take it as it comes as this year ive done it by the book trained them well came well sent to races and dropped them no health problems as if there owt going on i get it sorted to dont pump um with crap if they need somethink there av it if not they get nothink other than than jab for paramixo could of been a host of problems bop on root back or they was crap just have to see what 2011 brings

[geordie1234]

if yous were in my position how many more trainers would you give yer birds

[dal2]

if yous were in my position how many more trainers would you give yer birds

 

 

Moult most important now? Trqainin frae 20 mile when youve already been 15 nae help.

[Guest bakes]

if yous were in my position how many more trainers would you give yer birds

 

i woulld train them up when you can pick your days if it dont look right dont send them race them as yearlings give them a few races after a few races stop what you wont for oldbirds other keep them going to the end

[geordie1234]

Moult most important now? Trqainin frae 20 mile when youve already been 15 nae help.

CHEERS MATE WHEN ARE THEY TROUGH THE MOULT END OF SEPT