Any electricians here please?

[FoxesFan4Ever]

Hi all,

 

I am going to run electricity to the loft from the house. All the local hardware stores however refuse to give me any advice because it is against the health and safety rules. (How stupid  is that?)

Anyway I would think that 2.5mm Twin and Thread would be sufficient for my needs with a Surge breaker of course but I would like some concrete advice before going ahead.

I will eventually be looking to run ETS, music, lights, a laptop and possibly a heat source. It is highly unlikely that I would run them all together but I should be looking to be geared up for that eventuality.

 

Thanks all

[Guest mick bowler]

I am a spark by trade and what the shop guy said is right. All electrical work in UK is now covered by the building regs "Part P", basically states that anyone doing work on your property needs to be part P qualified or has to be inspected by building control. If you dont and something goes wrong, you are liable and not your insurer.

 

Call in a pro, i wont advise, (as much as i would like to), as little knowledge is worse than none!

[Guest stevie-b]

there are plenty guys not working looking for a couple o pound ask about m8 u will get a tradesman for decent money

[Kyleakin Lofts]

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I am a spark by trade and what the shop guy said is right. All electrical work in UK is now covered by the building regs "Part P", basically states that anyone doing work on your property needs to be part P qualified or has to be inspected by building control. If you dont and something goes wrong, you are liable and not your insurer.

 

Call in a pro, i wont advise, (as much as i would like to), as little knowledge is worse than none!

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[deb]

Hi all,

 

I am going to run electricity to the loft from the house. All the local hardware stores however refuse to give me any advice because it is against the health and safety rules. (How stupid  is that?)

Anyway I would think that 2.5mm Twin and Thread would be sufficient for my needs with a Surge breaker of course but I would like some concrete advice before going ahead.

I will eventually be looking to run ETS, music, lights, a laptop and possibly a heat source. It is highly unlikely that I would run them all together but I should be looking to be geared up for that eventuality.

 

Thanks all

 

I called at a trade electrical supply's,and they advise on what wire and circuit breakers etc I would need,then drew a detailed diagram which my husband was able to follow with just a basic electrical knowledge.Hope this helps,PM me if you need the name of the electrical wholesaler they are nation wide. Deborah.  

[Guest stb-]

WHO TOOK MY POST OF THIS THREAD  :-/ :-/

[Guest bigda]

 

I called at a trade electrical supply's,and they advise on what wire and circuit breakers etc I would need,then drew a detailed diagram which my husband was able to follow with just a basic electrical knowledge.Hope this helps,PM me if you need the name of the electrical wholesaler they are nation wide. Deborah.  

 

yes  thats what you call help full thats ALL the guy wants  no   lectures ,   if he gets 16ml 3 core  6942 type cable  for the  outside  then t@e in the shed 2.5 and 1.5   with  circuit breakers   sockets and light  switches and  closed light  fittings or  fluorescent  and 35 amp fuse  

[Guest mick bowler]

 

yes  thats what you call help full thats ALL the guy wants  no   lectures ,   if he gets 16ml 3 core  6942 type cable  for the  outside  then t@e in the shed 2.5 and 1.5   with  circuit breakers   sockets and light  switches and  closed light  fittings or  fluorescent  and 35 amp fuse  

 

It took me 5 years to train as as sparky so you want me to tell him how to do it in one post on here? One thing you should never mess with, water you feel or see, gas you smell, electrics theres no warning, even persons like myself have been caught out a few times!

[Guest bigda]

 

It took me 5 years to train as as sparky so you want me to tell him how to do it in one post on here? One thing you should never mess with, water you feel or see, gas you smell, electrics theres no warning, even persons like myself have been caught out a few times!

 

seen your to busy, he will get  info some where else  its not rocket science

[Guest mick bowler]

 

seen your to busy, he will get  info some where else  its not rocket science

 

Yeah i've heard that a few times, followed by the SOS call! As i said a little knowledge is worse than none!

 

[Guest IB]

I've taken a number of posts off, as has another mod before me.

 

Any posts which offer a layperson advice on how to install electrical work have been shown by two qualified electricians to be both dangerous and illegal. Yet these laypersons persist in their dangerous and illegal advice, and if it continues, thread will be locked.

[Guest stb-]

I've taken a number of posts off, as has another mod before me.

 

Any posts which offer a layperson advice on how to install electrical work have been shown by two qualified electricians to be both dangerous and illegal. Yet these laypersons persist in their dangerous and illegal advice, and if it continues, thread will be locked.

 

Well Bruno  i did not give any advise on how to fit anything on my post i just said that the cable being used was underrated for heaters

 

never mentioned how to fit anything , PS i am a contractor my self  :-/ :-/

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yes  thats what you call help full thats ALL the guy wants  no   lectures ,   if he gets 16ml 3 core  6942 type cable  for the  outside  then t@e in the shed 2.5 and 1.5   with  circuit breakers   sockets and light  switches and  closed light  fittings or  fluorescent  and 35 amp fuse  

 

I am not an electrician and neither are you

 

250w to 1 AMP is what I was told when I worked at the electricity board - so 35 amp sounds far too much !!

[Guest Davy Fleming]

As hard as it may seem guys  Mick is 1 million % correct . A bit frustrating I know but if he or some else gave advice then you thought OH this is what he meant then it's goodnight and then how will they feel when being on the site . So comon lads give them a bit of respect and try to understand where they are coming from.

[Guest IB]

 

Well Bruno  i did not give any advise on how to fit anything on my post i just said that the cable being used was underrated for heaters

 

never mentioned how to fit anything , PS i am a contractor my self  :-/ :-/

 

Your post was one in a series of answers / replies to the post which gave out the original information which was said to be dangerous. I cannot take out the original post and leave in all the ones that replied to it, irrespective of whether they corrected it or not.

[Guest bigda]

 

I am not an electrician and neither are you

 

250w to 1 AMP is what I was told when I worked at the electricity board - so 35 amp sounds far too much !!

 

how many amps  dose it say for your cooker, and  shower then and there supply

[Guest stb-]

 

Your post was one in a series of answers / replies to the post which gave out the original information which was said to be dangerous. I cannot take out the original post and leave in all the ones that replied to it, irrespective of whether they corrected it or not.

 

FAIR POINT M8   I SUPPOSE T WOULD LOOK SILLY

[Guest mick bowler]

As hard as it may seem guys  Mick is 1 million % correct . A bit frustrating I know but if he or some else gave advice then you thought OH this is what he meant then it's goodnight and then how will they feel when being on the site . So comon lads give them a bit of respect and try to understand where they are coming from.

 

You really need to have at least a good basic understanding of house electrics to caary out ANY work, and just because its a shed dont make it any less important.

 

This is a true story. I had a bloke ring asking for an additional socket in a bedroom he was using as an office. I never really had time, but as he was a bit of a handyman i ran him thru what to do and how to do, including cable sizes etc. Anyway some weeks later, he rang and asked could i install some smoke alarms, again i was so busy i couldnt and it turned out they were only the battery type anyway. Another couple of weeks and a call from his wife. The smoke alarm upstairs kept going off, and there was an "unusual smell". My alarm bells started to ring so called into them soon as i could. Far from what i had told him, he had infact purchased small flex, as used in standard lamps from b&q, and ran it underneath the carpet and not the floorboards. The socket it ran to, had a fax, a PC and a small fan heater running from it! The smell was also putrid. When i lifted the carpet the foam backing of the carpet had melted into the cable and onto the floor boards, and id say another few days and house would been on fire, the smoke alarm was picking up the fumes. What was the most disturbing was that these appliances were left on all night, and as i explained to her it was just sheer luck he had fitted them detetctors, otherwise who knows what had happened.

 

Like i said a little knowledge..........

 

 

[Guest bigda]

all  i was saying  he dose the basics  wires out in the shed  on your advice lights  sockets  runs the right type of  cable to the meter then gets a electrician  to check out the job and

connect to the mains for the guy  and wait till the spark aint busy to call  at his house too check it out

[BLACK W F]

all  i was saying  he dose the basics  wires out in the shed  on your advice lights  sockets  runs the right type of  cable to the meter then gets a electrician  to check out the job and

connect to the mains for the guy  and wait till the spark aint busy to call  at his house too check it out

 

dont see nothing wrong with that     ;) ;)

[Guest mick bowler]

http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_what.asp

[walterbmasson]

WHO TOOK MY POST OF THIS THREAD  :-/ :-/

to much sparks robert       ;D ;D bright ones ha ha dina let them on t the ets system to late on now  ;D ;D ;D

 

[kirky]

i bought a 25 meter reel extencion from wilkisons £10 job done, just plug in at house and i have 4 plug sockets at the other end in loft.

[Guest bigda]

http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_what.asp

 

whats the problem, the electrician just checks what the  guys

done the connects to the meter and if its for insurance  commissions a certificate   is that no the case

[BLACK W F]

 

whats the problem, the electrician just checks what the  guys

done the connects to the meter and if its for insurance  commissions a certificate   is that no the case

 

would do me but i just use extension as kirky says  simple  ;D ;D ;D ;D