big blue bar Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 i m not saying that the crow did nt do this to your bird but we have crows nesting in a tree at the back of our loft and had no probs . i m glad they are there because last week a peregine attacked my young bird team at my loft and the crow chased it away might of lost some birds if it was nt there .
cemetary Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 A like ti feed the wee birds we have left aroond oor Garden, cause the crow always get something from them, makes them at home and helps wi the BANDITS, JMO
DOVEScot Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Posted June 1, 2010 I know just how she feels. I've had to bring my one and only remaining garden fantail into the loft. Do you still have them out in the dovecote? Only two pairs left in the dovecotes Sue and the males spend the night in the old loft, I will see how she feels but she is definitely getting tired of it all as it has been a bad year for hawk attacks as well, her fancy birds ain't been out this year at all
cemetary Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Only two pairs left in the dovecotes Sue and the males spend the night in the old loft, I will see how she feels but she is definitely getting tired of it all as it has been a bad year for hawk attacks as well, her fancy birds ain't been out this year at all Hope yi nail the *expletive removed* Duncan,
THE FIFER Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Crows are usually opportunists, they go for the sick, injured or vulnerable. I have never seen them go for a fit healthy bird, they are too slow, but if you get one injured out of sight they will kill and devour. I had one go missing and found it too late, but i prefer to have them around to BOP. Roland is not quite right about crow being on the BOP menu. They are, but they way down the list, they are too much nuisance for BOP, especially sparrowhawks, and crows will put up a show "en-force" to drive them out the area. I have seen them here harassing a Peregrine, with enough space to make an escape if needed. These BOP use stealth in their attacks, and not much around when its being harassed by noisy crows! I'd say either your bird was downed by a BOP 9would like to see pic of its back)or injured itself before the crow attacked. Easily got rid of if they become a nuisance, no guns no traps needed! not so mick I had them and saw them take old birds out of the sky, they are very quick when they want to, and they surprise the pigeons, blackbirds and starlings are fast but the crows get them as well,
DOVEScot Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Posted June 1, 2010 Hope yi nail the *expletive removed* Duncan, I'm on the case Cem
just ask me Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 I'm on the case Cem hope you have a better shot than him he never got the rabbit what ever it is i hope you get it sorted
DOVEScot Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Posted June 1, 2010 hope you have a better shot than him he never got the rabbit what ever it is i hope you get it sorted Correction, he never got the rabbit
Guest stb- Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 not so mick I had them and saw them take old birds out of the sky, they are very quick when they want to, and they surprise the pigeons, blackbirds and starlings are fast but the crows get them as well,YOUR CORRECT ARCHIE , THE LADS THAT LOST THEM TO THE CARRION CROW HERE , WERE MOSTLY YOUNGBIRDS BUT IT TOOK SOME TOP OLD BIRDS ASWEEL , ONE OF THE PROBLEMS BEING THE BIRDS DONT LOOK AT IT AS BEING A THREATTO THEM AND ARE VERY TOLERANTE TO CROWS . HERRING GULLS ARE ALSO BAD FOR KILLING PIGEONS AND HAVE HAD MY YOUNG BIRDS ATTAKED SEVERAL TIMES WITH THEM
Guest bakes Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 not so mick I had them and saw them take old birds out of the sky, they are very quick when they want to, and they surprise the pigeons, blackbirds and starlings are fast but the crows get them as well, agree archie a few years ago we got a phone call from a lady that owned a small holding her husband and her had terrible problems with foxs and crows they ran a small pheasant/red legged patridge shoot on there small holding farm for family and friends she was haveing pheasant poults and patridge poults taken by both fox/crows attacking them when out in pens we went up there sorted the problem out with the terriers bushing to waiting guns still remeber the day clearly was walking back put dogs back on couples guns was put back away in rifle bags then heard the loud calling was crows seen 5 crows attacking the poults sorted them out and culled over 100 crows in a space of two weeks me my dad and uncle worked with her husband to secure there pens more secure fitting electric fences to try to stop foxs digging under the out side mesh to get in we done all this for nothink still see the couple now come into my work and still saying thanks ever so much like anythink if given a chance they will take it its up to you to try to resolve this my the best means as possible this time was vermin pestcontrol job that needed sorting out urgently if its one single crow that is courseing damage control it my all legal ways nessercery to try to resolve the problem but if its a group of crows not doing no harm there no need to control them one thing ive always said because there on the pest vermin list they dont always need to be controlled only come to this as last chance senerio when all else fails all the best.
THE FIFER Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 YOUR CORRECT ARCHIE , THE LADS THAT LOST THEM TO THE CARRION CROW HERE , WERE MOSTLY YOUNGBIRDS BUT IT TOOK SOME TOP OLD BIRDS ASWEEL , ONE OF THE PROBLEMS BEING THE BIRDS DONT LOOK AT IT AS BEING A THREATTO THEM AND ARE VERY TOLERANTE TO CROWS . HERRING GULLS ARE ALSO BAD FOR KILLING PIGEONS AND HAVE HAD MY YOUNG BIRDS ATTAKED SEVERAL TIMES WITH THEM yes the carrion is very crafty,sits looking and then strikes, I lost 8 old birds that year,and squeekers out the loft, the things were a nightmare, they sit and hide behind chimney stacks,
nogin Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Have to say my tolerance levels for anything that wishes to disturb ma does is minimal!! I relocate everything, and i mean everything, 4 legged, furry, flying or scurrying, no time wasting or second thoughts they gotta go SAME HEAR JOHN, I HAD A CARRION I MY LOFT, IT WAS GURRING A SQUAB IT PULLED OUT THE NEST BOX. SO IT GOT THE MESSAGE.
Roland Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Well one can think what they like. As regards crows, they are very crafty, alert and opertunists, and not only scavengers, but killers. They - like all the family - root out and distroy the hedgerows, trees etc. To think otherwise is foolhardy and done at your own peril.Mind if food ever gets scare that they are short thrift of via the Hawk etc. However a hens' egg injected via a syringe with a tad of flavouring works wonders.
DOVEScot Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Posted June 2, 2010 YOUR CORRECT ARCHIE , THE LADS THAT LOST THEM TO THE CARRION CROW HERE , WERE MOSTLY YOUNGBIRDS BUT IT TOOK SOME TOP OLD BIRDS ASWEEL , ONE OF THE PROBLEMS BEING THE BIRDS DONT LOOK AT IT AS BEING A THREATTO THEM AND ARE VERY TOLERANTE TO CROWS . HERRING GULLS ARE ALSO BAD FOR KILLING PIGEONS AND HAVE HAD MY YOUNG BIRDS ATTAKED SEVERAL TIMES WITH THEM One relocated Rab and it's mate next
Guest stb- Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 One relocated Rab and it's mate nextgood Duncan location location only way m8
sapper756 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 One relocated Rab and it's mate next http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif
sapper756 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 One must do what one must do Brian http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif "He who dares wins"http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif
Walter swanston Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 Sadly I have trouble with crows every year.I am convinced that they can hear the chicks squeaking in the loft and then they appear.They have to be carefully watched
Guest IB Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 Sorry to hear about your bird being killed. My experience with crows has been mixed - Fifer was first I remember warning that they were a danger to pigeons, but at that time I considered them a help in keeping sparrowhawks & buzzards away - they still buzz them to this day in my area. First bother & casualty I had was 3/4 years back, a youngster on its 10th flight got into bother and was grounded under trees about 2 miles from me. Member of public attracted by commotion crows were making rescued the youngster, and handed it in to a clubmate who got it back to me - minus most of primaries in both wings. Eating & drinking OK it couldn't keep food down and a few weeks later found it had died during the night. Worst experience was 2 years ago during OB season when one crow went mental and kept attacking my OBs as soon as they landed on the loft. A clubmate tried to nail it, then lent me his rifle and tried myself - close, not close enough, could see the swine sat on lamp post 'ducking' as it heard pellets whizz by, (it's a Gatlin gun with laser sights I need) and it eventually disappeared all by itself - it was attacking other birds so maybes met more than a match. Birds were terrified of crows after that, they took off as soon as they saw one coming their way. Took ages but they are now more 'streetwise' and treat crows like any other threat, they watch them closely, but they rarely take off nowadays. So my feelings are still mixed, I know they are a danger and none get to sit around my place, like magpies, they are chased, but the crows still keep the hawks away.
JohnQuinn Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 When we were kids the family spent the summers on a local farm where the owner had doos. I can still visualise the Crows hanging from the trees by the lofts, my dad caught 2 of them IN THE LOFT eating young birds from the nests, done them in and hung them up to deter others. Thats 30 odd years i've known they'll kill and eat young birds. :angry:
THE FIFER Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 crows annoy the hawks but they dont keep them away, they always come back. only ever saw crows worrying hawks but never really attaking them
Guest stb- Posted June 2, 2010 Report Posted June 2, 2010 CROWS KILL BABY LAMBS BYE PICKING OUT THERE EYES AND EATING BRAIN THEY WOULD KILL ANYTHING THEY GOT AWAY WITH
DOVEScot Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Posted June 16, 2010 It seems that crows will attack anythinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iYhk3BSFLI And sparrow hawks will take a crow The difference between a raven and a crow
Guest mick bowler Posted June 16, 2010 Report Posted June 16, 2010 Did anyone see spring watch where the Carrion took the swan cygnet? I "had" one or two getting a bit close for comfort, didnt really want them coming on the loft and scaring the YBs, but happy for them to be around still.
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