Chris Little Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 got to say chris fridays forecast can change by sunday would you not agree if you tell me what the weather is going to be like for wednesday in annan today it surely could change by wednesday The fact is though, the Met Office got it bang on for Sunday, as I have already mentioned, I was elsewhere today, probably in the line of flight and it chucked it down
square_peg Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 Bottom line is you organisation voted to SAVE MONEY. Not to think of you birds first and foremost! But to save money! NO "ME" WELFARE OF THE DOO'S DIDNT COME INTO IT ,THE SNFC HAS ON THE WHOLE A VERY GOOD REPUTATION FOR LOOKING AFTER OUR DOO'S ,I KNEW IT WILL BE A HARDER RACE GOING WITH SNFC RATHER THAN FED ONLY,BUT A VERY BIG MISTAKE WAS MADE TODAY AND I WANT ANSWERS AS TO WHY THE DOO'S WERE LIBBED >
frank-123 Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 The fact is though, the Met Office got it bang on for Sunday, as I have already mentioned, I was elsewhere today, probably in the line of flight and it chucked it down so the met office got it right why did you send if you seen such a bad forecast did you gamble that there would be a break in the weather or were you thinking tuesday would be the best day for a liberation
Chris Little Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 Bart - I never gamble with a pigeons welfare, I put my trust in the race controllers to look after not only my birds but all the others on the transporter, I was anticipating a 2 / 3 / 4 day holdover but it was not to be.... I have birds sitting at Reims still waiting to go,thankfully they are still safe in the baskets
square_peg Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 IN THIS MODERN ERA WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH DELAYING THE MARKING OF BIRDS,IN THIS CASE MAYBE BASKETING ON SUNDAY NIGHT FOR A TUESDAY RACE :-/
frank-123 Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 hope you get your reims pigeons chris i know jim hannah as you do he will be gutted there has been a bad race but i have never known him just to chuck pigeons up just for the sake of it he may have thought there was a break in the weather giving the birds enough time to get up the road it has been proved there was not enough of a break in the weather by the returns
me Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 Bart - I never gamble with a pigeons welfare, I put my trust in the race controllers to look after not only my birds but all the others on the transporter, I was anticipating a 2 / 3 / 4 day holdover but it was not to be.... I have birds sitting at Reims still waiting to go,thankfully they are still safe in the baskets All the best with the Reims doos hopefully the guys will be brave enough to make the right decision Chris when it all gets down to it, all we want is our birds home safe and sound
me Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 IN THIS MODERN ERA WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH DELAYING THE MARKING OF BIRDS,IN THIS CASE MAYBE BASKETING ON SUNDAY NIGHT FOR A TUESDAY RACE :-/ Money only money! That is the one and only God!
Tam2007 Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 90 Pigeons Away From Cambuslang Only 6 Home.
Guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 Money only money! That is the one and only God! what about the bloody money it costs us to buy and rear our birds and they wipe them out in a day it could take years for some people to replace them think about that
me Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 what about the bloody money it costs us to buy and rear our birds and they wipe them out in a day it could take years for some people to replace them think about that Today has been a complete waste of time for doo men but we must hang on to the fact we love our birds and tomorrow might just bring a few home!!
Guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 Today has been a complete waste of time for doo men but we must hang on to the fact we love our birds and tomorrow might just bring a few home!! it would be good to know how many of the 5500 birds are home tonight?????????? not a lot i think:
Ian McKay Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 NOW NOW lads I can assure you this was NOT a case of our birds being chucked out for all the reason given. The SNFC committee had a replacement plan if this was to be a long holdover. As for Jim Hanna I do not beleive he did not have the interest of all members and birds at heart if you know the guy you will know what I am speaking about I agree this has not been the type of race we were expecting You are all welcome to stand for race controller at the AGM not seen the waiting list but I can assure you it is VERY short The Lanarkshire have controllers that have went out of there way to give there members better liberations than last year and have been succesfull up until now if the SNFC were so desperate to lib why did the Lanarkshire Liberate 15 minutes later There are NO birds recorded in my region that I know of, this is not what we want but it is 450mls and a very unusual weather conditions The Aberdeen Federation cancelled this weeks race and we had complaints one of the complainers has posted about the SNFC liberation so the Fed was wrong to cancel and the SNFC was wrong to go it is a never ending problem but he will not stand for the job he does not know how to water our birds when he was on our lorry???? You the fancier sent your birds knowing the weather forcast but want to blame the race controller Why Why Why It is easy to say I trust the race controller and to casrtate him when things go wrong I see posting on here telling us I knew this was going to be the weather so why do all you knowledgeable people not stand for the job
Guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Posted June 24, 2007 Ian you are bang on everyone is their own controler if you think its not right dont send but i have to say the forecasts i saw since thursday have all been no race and i was very surprised to see so many libs from france over the weekend i just hope most of thease birds make it home
celtic Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 If the transporter was needed for wednesday then make contingency plans , as posted above it will be interesting to see how many birds are actually declared missing from the race ? i'm none from 5, even if we just get a rough figure from members on here it should tell a story, perhaps give it until say Monday then those who sent can post what their returns were...good or bad.
HOMER49 Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Hi had 6 with SNFC and 6 with LRPF 1 HOME AT THE MOMENT I AM VERY VERY ANGRY Alex Blyth
Guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Still waiting this morning. Had a chance to sleep on it, and read the posts put on last night. Big difference in getting something wrong because of unpredictability of weather affecting south coast of England thro to north coast of Scotland, and as has been alleged, needing baskets & transporters & folk going to work. At this time of year, baskets and transporters aren't exactly in short supply. Know that I've 44 baskets waiting to go out and that's just one club supplying - there's plenty more. Don't see any of this 'money & resources' stuff as being a consideration in yesterday's liberation. Big difference between a weather forecast and a weather report. Look to Steve Appleby's forecast put out on this forum on Friday night for Saturday. That's much the same as the Met forecast for Saturday, clear skies early morning, get them up & away early - you wish!!! Saturday was a complete wash-out. I thought Sunday was to be a clearer day, much like the Saturday 'forecast' and I thought that was what was happening when they were up 1st thing yesterday. I didn't think to check to see the direction weather was moving. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I was a controller of a different sort in my former workdays. Used to call some 'enquiries' of the type of wizened comments here 'fully paid up members of the IRCC' that is ... Institute of Retrospective Controllers.
andy Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Still waiting this morning. Had a chance to sleep on it, and read the posts put on last night. Big difference in getting something wrong because of unpredictability of weather affecting south coast of England thro to north coast of Scotland, and as has been alleged, needing baskets & transporters & folk going to work. At this time of year, baskets and transporters aren't exactly in short supply. Know that I've 44 baskets waiting to go out and that's just one club supplying - there's plenty more. Don't see any of this 'money & resources' stuff as being a consideration in yesterday's liberation. Big difference between a weather forecast and a weather report. Look to Steve Appleby's forecast put out on this forum on Friday night for Saturday. That's much the same as the Met forecast for Saturday, clear skies early morning, get them up & away early - you wish!!! Saturday was a complete wash-out. I thought Sunday was to be a clearer day, much like the Saturday 'forecast' and I thought that was what was happening when they were up 1st thing yesterday. I didn't think to check to see the direction weather was moving. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I was a controller of a different sort in my former workdays. Used to call some 'enquiries' of the type of wizened comments here 'fully paid up members of the IRCC' that is ... Institute of Retrospective Controllers. Ian, You cant please all of the people all of the time! maybe half! Now got 16/32. Six this morning, Hope you get yours home........
celtic Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Ian , you say we choose to send our birds knowing the weather but now we want to blame the conveyors, why, why, why. I'll try to explain why...their job is not to get out of their cabin, have a look around ,have a cup of coffee, check the sky again then let them go. their are supposed to do their homework , right the way back up the road, every bit of it. Too right i blame the conveyors , yes we blame them when something goes wrong and why should'nt we ?, they are not up for the job, plain and simple, anybody can release birds when the weather is nice, it's when there is a bit foresight required we need someone who has that foresight, not conveyors who are worried about getting them up for whatever simply for whatever the reason. For the money they get paid they should NOT be making basic mistakes like this that have cost fanciers if not thousands at the very least many hundreds of hundreds of birds.
frank-123 Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 the controllers decide when the birds are let go not the convoyer the convoyer only tells him what the weather is like at the race point and by going with the pics that tammy posted the weather looked ok for a liberation before you slam people please think
Chris Little Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Got one this morning, now 3 from 4 Praying loads return home today for you guys
Ian McKay Posted June 25, 2007 Report Posted June 25, 2007 Hi Celtic Seeing as I do not know you give me your name and I will propose you for controller next year for the SNFC Cheers Ian
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