SNFC /RPRA

[maverick]

nothing at all but one thing i have been taught to-day is allways trust your 1st judgement and i look forward to going to race marking at my club and the snrpc to be with good friendly fanciers not trying to bite my back

 

good luck frank   sorry to see you give in so quickly

[THE FIFER]

 

no,you'v to resign prior to the agm

 

that's right, dont remember the year this was passed but it was when i was on the SHU council, so was before the split, I was never at the SNFC meetings so dont know what happened so cant get involved on iether side, but do know that it was passed that you had to resign from the SNFC, this happened because at one of the SHU council meetings ( before the split) the SNFC gave a list of debt suspended members, to be sanctioned by SHU, council as is the procedure, but the council turned this down, because the rule was never sanctioned by the SHU, but the following year the rule was put forward to be passed by SHU and was.

[OLDYELLOW]

 

that's right, dont remember the year this was passed but it was when i was on the SHU council, so was before the split, I was never at the SNFC meetings so dont know what happened so cant get involved on iether side, but do know that it was passed that you had to resign from the SNFC, this happened because at one of the SHU council meetings ( before the split) the SNFC gave a list of debt suspended members, to be sanctioned by SHU, council as is the procedure, but the council turned this down, because the rule was never sanctioned by the SHU, but the following year the rule was put forward to be passed by SHU and was.

 

 

 

i aint getting dragged in to this but looks like there is a loop hole there to get reinstated

[ALF]

 

that's right, dont remember the year this was passed but it was when i was on the SHU council, so was before the split, I was never at the SNFC meetings so dont know what happened so cant get involved on iether side, but do know that it was passed that you had to resign from the SNFC, this happened because at one of the SHU council meetings ( before the split) the SNFC gave a list of debt suspended members, to be sanctioned by SHU, council as is the procedure, but the council turned this down, because the rule was never sanctioned by the SHU, but the following year the rule was put forward to be passed by SHU and was.

 

Archie why would a SNFC rule have to go before the SHU council to be passed???  Why cant the SNFC make and pass it's own rules???

[THE FIFER]

I think some should read the rule book,

 

yes its in the SNFC 2004 year book, rules QUOTE: Any member wishing to resign from membership of the club, must do so in writing ,to the Secretary prior to the AGM.

[THE FIFER]

 

Archie why would a SNFC rule have to go before the SHU council to be passed???  Why cant the SNFC make and pass it's own rules???

 

 

all additions to rules or changes to your boundaries must be confirmed by SHU.

 

[Guest]

 

Archie why would a SNFC rule have to go before the SHU council to be passed???  Why cant the SNFC make and pass it's own rules???

 

snfc run under shu rules

all club /fed rules go to shu to be santioned

so as to have no conflicting rules

 

dave

[ALF]

Well maybe that's why we are in the position we are in just now in Scotland by letting the SHU decide what WE do  : : : : : :

[naedoos]

Well maybe that's why we are in the position we are in just now in Scotland by letting the SHU decide what WE do  : : : : : :

 

Thought the Scottish Homing Union was the governing body for Scotland :-/

[THE FIFER]

 

Thought the Scottish Homing Union was the governing body for Scotland :-/

 

it is, as the RPRA and other unions are down south, so its not just Scotland that have to put up with governing bodies,

[ALF]

 

Thought the Scottish Homing Union was the governing body for Scotland :-/

 

It does'nt mean to say that it is right all the time!!!

[naedoos]

 

It does'nt mean to say that it is right all the time!!!

 

Nobody is sayin it is Alf but rules are rules, and untill they're changed you've got to go by them, no try n make you're own up!

[Guest IB]

 

when did it change

i know it used to be if you missed the date you had to pay the£25 plus a £6 penalty for late payment

and could race that season in the snfc

a member in my club didnt pay his snfc fees

the following year the club and fed were informed that he was debt suspended

and had to clear with snfc before club would let him race

this was 2 years ago

 

I stand corrected by both yourself and George, it's in the rule book you've to resign before the AGM. Also in the Rule book : closing date for membership 1st April. On hindsight I think that's the date my clubmates were warning me about this year. Think I may have been misled there?

 

 

 

 

[ALF]

 

Nobody is sayin it is Alf but rules are rules, and untill they're changed you've got to go by them, no try n make you're own up!

 

Nobody,s trying to make any rules up mate but i think the SNFC should'nt be relying on the SHU all the time WE should be big enough to make our own rules and our own decisions as the SNFC is the older organisation

[Guest]

i will go back to my first point how can you dept suspend a member when he is ineligable for membership (not a member of shu) so he cant join but has to pay anyway realy clever way of dealing with a problem thats never came up before maybe 1 of the commitee of the snfc that sat in on the meeting that delt with this can comment what realy hapened and what decision they came to because i dont know of anyone who was lettered by the snfc to tell them they had been suspended for non payment at that time i certainly wasn,t

[dkj]

frank bite the bullet and join the shu again u no u want 2

[Guest]

so when the shu sanctioned it that must have been 2004/2005 season archie so it wasnt a rule if not sanctioned archie and i still remember a long discussion when Alan Mcgonagle was sec he was the one who asked for it to make it easier to deal with given the situation regarding members that had died i will have to look out my old snfc books to get the year

[naedoos]

 

Nobody,s trying to make any rules up mate but i think the SNFC should'nt be relying on the SHU all the time WE should be big enough to make our own rules and our own decisions as the SNFC is the older organisation

 

Fair point mate, but you've still to go with the original rules untill you can change them :-/

[Guest]

so does that mean if this passes the rules will change regarding the appeal procedure as the rules in place with the snfc only cover shu members

[Fair Play]

This might sound naive but could we not have an amnesty (we do for most everything else)where both organisations could sit down and discuss the problems that are outstanding with the members of the governing bodies(SHU & RPRA) in attendance chaired by an independent IHU ,NWHU or WHU. They could try to get a resolve

and let us get on with what we do best - "FLYING PIGEONS" I do not have a foot in any camp but will join one next year.

[Guest]

great point fair play

[rembrant2coo]

This might sound naive but could we not have an amnesty (we do for most everything else)where both organisations could sit down and discuss the problems that are outstanding with the members of the governing bodies(SHU & RPRA) in attendance chaired by an independent IHU ,NWHU or WHU. They could try to get a resolve

and let us get on with what we do best - "FLYING PIGEONS" I do not have a foot in any camp but will join one next year.

 

Tom thats what the confederations for mate ,they supposed to act on any  grievances

thats brought to there attention , if memory serves me right it was already resolved

a long time ago.

[Guest]

 

Tom thats what the confederations for mate ,they supposed to act on any  grievances

thats brought to there attention , if memory serves me right it was already resolved

a long time ago.

 

hello harry,(kewl)

[DOVEScot]

This might sound naive but could we not have an amnesty (we do for most everything else)where both organisations could sit down and discuss the problems that are outstanding with the members of the governing bodies(SHU & RPRA) in attendance chaired by an independent IHU ,NWHU or WHU. They could try to get a resolve

and let us get on with what we do best - "FLYING PIGEONS" I do not have a foot in any camp but will join one next year.

 

That is what is needed, we start racing this year and like you have no foot in any camp but would love to see one united Scotland, it is always the same diehards and committee members are very hard to persuade of change and ordinary members just want to fly their pigeons :-/

 

[rembrant2coo]

 

hello harry,(kewl)

 

hello bammy one ,i,ll see you this week ,mind get the pies in