SNFC /RPRA

[Henrik]

Is that the RPRA spat the dummy oot n resigned fi the Confederation again. Thats twice n they shouldnt get a third opportunity to do so. A case of its my Baw n I,m no playing.

[frank-123]

henrik what has the confederation done for the pigeon game in the uk

 

stopped clashing

got strays home

fought the rspb

 

i can see why the rpra got out

[HOMER49]

The bit that i cant work out is how did these members who were suspended in the first place by the S.H.U.  ever get into the R.P.R.A  AS SUSPENDED MEMBERS they should not have been able to get membership, very good way to run there union let anyone join .

 

Hi

SNFC members who walked out the AGM without handing in there resignation or paying there fees for that year were debt suspended by the SNFC

Only after the next AGM of the SNFC were they reported to the SHU and dept suspended

Nothing to do with the SHU they were only carrying out the SNFC recommendations

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[nogin]

 

Hi

SNFC members who walked out the AGM without handing in there resignation or paying there fees for that year were debt suspended by the SNFC

Only after the next AGM of the SNFC were they reported to the SHU and dept suspended

Nothing to do with the SHU they were only carrying out the SNFC recommendations

Cheers

Homer 49

 

WELL SAID HOMER 49

 

[frank-123]

 

Hi

SNFC members who walked out the AGM without handing in there resignation or paying there fees for that year were debt suspended by the SNFC

Only after the next AGM of the SNFC were they reported to the SHU and dept suspended

Nothing to do with the SHU they were only carrying out the SNFC recommendations

Cheers

Homer 49

 

true homer and they never paid any dues since they left

the snfc is a poorer national without them on a financial point and we are missing some top class doo men as well

so the quicker we are back together the bettter

 

 

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

they have within the confederation

[Guest]

 

I asked that same question maverick as i think if they were suspended the rpra should never have accepted them but as they were already members there was nothing that could be done  personally and im pretty sure lot wont agree with me on it i think that on issues like suspended members the 2 unions should work together if you are suspended in one you should be suspended in the other

 

As far as the two unions working together,my personal experience of the shu is not good.When i joined the SNRPC the shu would not release my loft coordinates,when challenged on the issue their response was  the corondinates were theirs and not mine.And further more they discouraged the want to join the SNRPC.Therefore making it extremly dificult to get distances for my national races.Further more i AM a member of the shu,and being a new fancier and not historically involved in past disputes felt extremely let down.this has left a real bad taste of the union.so i felt the only avenue left was to join the rpra and have to say have been delighted with the way i have been treated since joining.

[nogin]

 

As far as the two unions working together,my personal experience of the shu is not good.When i joined the SNRPC the shu would not release my loft coordinates,when challenged on the issue their response was  the corondinates were theirs and not mine.And further more they discouraged the want to join the SNRPC.Therefore making it extremly dificult to get distances for my national races.Further more i AM a member of the shu,and being a new fancier and not historically involved in past disputes felt extremely let down.this has left a real bad taste of the union.so i felt the only avenue left was to join the rpra and have to say have been delighted with the way i have been treated since joining.

 

I THINK SOMEBODY'S PROMPTING YOU VINNIE LAD

[Guest]

 

I THINK SOMEBODY'S PROMPTING YOU VINNIE LAD

 

If only mate,but sadly that is fact not fiction :-/ :-/ :-/

[maverick]

 

Perhaps if the 2 unions worked together they wouldnt be in that position without looking at the rules im not sure but under the rpra im pretty sure if you dont pay your subs in one of the clubs you are in you are classed as a defaulter and cant fly perhaps the unions should have some agreement like that

 

I thought no matter what if you were suspended from any club, union , fed, you were not alowed to fly or show your birds anywere until the matter was resolved.

[Novice]

 

As far as the two unions working together,my personal experience of the shu is not good.When i joined the SNRPC the shu would not release my loft coordinates,when challenged on the issue their response was  the corondinates were theirs and not mine.And further more they discouraged the want to join the SNRPC.Therefore making it extremly dificult to get distances for my national races.Further more i AM a member of the shu,and being a new fancier and not historically involved in past disputes felt extremely let down.this has left a real bad taste of the union.so i felt the only avenue left was to join the rpra and have to say have been delighted with the way i have been treated since joining.

 

This is an accurate and factual post fron Vincent. It agrees completely with my experiences.

I obtained my loft co-ordinates from the SHU because they had written to me on another matter and they had included my latitude and longitude. OK they had snowpaked them out and I removed the Snowpake.

The fact they had done this left me feeling that they were undermining my rights.

 

 

[sammy]

When i joined the SNRPC the shu would not release my loft coordinates,when challenged on the issue their response was  the corondinates were theirs and not mine,but surely you pay the money for these things including measurements then they belong to you and not them

[Guest]

true homer and they never paid any dues since they left

the snfc is a poorer national without them on a financial point and we are missing some top class doo men as well

so the quicker we are back together the bettter

 

 

 

well they'll be better off when they pay if they want back(hehe)

but some dont want back

[Guest]

When i joined the SNRPC the shu would not release my loft coordinates,when challenged on the issue their response was  the corondinates were theirs and not mine,but surely you pay the money for these things including measurements then they belong to you and not them

 

You would think so wouldint you. but not according to the shu. :o

[DOVEScot]

When i joined the SNRPC the shu would not release my loft coordinates,when challenged on the issue their response was  the corondinates were theirs and not mine,but surely you pay the money for these things including measurements then they belong to you and not them

 

Would it not be possible to get your own

 

http://leisure.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/leisure/searchProcessing.jsp?q=ky7+6pg&gazName=pc&publisher=allpub&x=9&y=13

 

 

[naedoos]

When i joined the SNRPC the shu would not release my loft coordinates,when challenged on the issue their response was  the corondinates were theirs and not mine,but surely you pay the money for these things including measurements then they belong to you and not them

 

Doesn't make sense to me, any time I've contacted them for measurements they ask what my coordinates are so they can provide the measurement.

 

Must be the measuremeant you're payin for then eh

[me]

 

Hi

SNFC members who walked out the AGM without handing in there resignation or paying there fees for that year were debt suspended by the SNFC

Only after the next AGM of the SNFC were they reported to the SHU and dept suspended

Nothing to do with the SHU they were only carrying out the SNFC recommendations

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

 

This has been explained before many times but for those that are a little dim I will explain it one more time.

 

The members of the SNFC who were no longer members of the SHU were barred from remaining  members of the SNFC by the SNFC own rules.

 

Therefore they should not have been debt suspended as it was the SNFC that stopped them being members of the club.

 

Now surely to goodness that is not too difficult to understand Homer unless you are suggesting people should be forced to pay membership fees for a club they are no longer allowed to be members of?

 

[rebel]

could not have put it better "me2

[naedoos]

 

 

This has been explained before many times but for those that are a little dim I will explain it one more time.

 

The members of the SNFC who were no longer members of the SHU were barred from remaining  members of the SNFC by the SNFC own rules.

 

Therefore they should not have been debt suspended as it was the SNFC that stopped them being members of the club.

 

Now surely to goodness that is not too difficult to understand Homer unless you are suggesting people should be forced to pay membership fees for a club they are no longer allowed to be members of?

 

How can you say they should not have been debt suspended if they walked out the meeting and never paid their subsciption for that year. The SNFC never told them to walk out so how can it be the SNFC that stopped them being members of the club. :-/

 

[Guest]

you have got your point 100% wrong hommer when we left the snfc a member did not have to resighn you were a member for the year you they only need re-new or not and i dont know of any ex member who has been informed that they are suspended so to write that up is misleading or illinformed  the two unions have resolved the situation rose as was asked by the confederation which at the time was bieng run by the shu with john barlow in the chair as for the rpra leaving the confederation i dont know if this is true or just another piece of properganda to stir the sh-- again but as bart said what do they do for us the fancier or is it just another jolly for the officals paid for by us again to wine and dine themself as for the shu not giving out loft cord. that was only the tip of the iceberg and went right out of there way to stop any one from leaving them

[Guest]

i think you are starting to get an idea of what you will be up against bart the hard linners are comming out the woodwork  now!!!!!

[Guest]

me your post is correct but the use of the word barred i think is not quite right i would say not eligable to join i know its splitting hairs but some on here seem to love that word barred and make up what they want to justify it

[maverick]

So what you are saying frank is that you can attend the A.G.M. have your say dont like the out come leave and then not pay your fees

[naedoos]

 

 

This has been explained before many times but for those that are a little dim I will explain it one more time.

 

The members of the SNFC who were no longer members of the SHU were barred from remaining  members of the SNFC by the SNFC own rules.

 

Therefore they should not have been debt suspended as it was the SNFC that stopped them being members of the club.

 

Now surely to goodness that is not too difficult to understand Homer unless you are suggesting people should be forced to pay membership fees for a club they are no longer allowed to be members of?

 

either that or just one o the one's that are a little dim ;D ;D ;D

[Guest IB]

 

either that or just one o the one's that are a little dim ;D ;D ;D

 

Maybe I'm guilty of being a little dim too, but what appears to be being put forward here is that you don't need to resign? Does that apply too to the Federations and Clubs in Scotland that have the same rule as the SNFC - must be a member of SHU. Surely if you do not resign then you are still a member of the Organisation in question?

 

Isn't it the same with all the other Unions?

 

And if you decide you no longer wish to be a member of that Organisation, surely you should offiicially terminate your involvement in it, and leave owing nothing, before joining another Organisation? Otherwise you cannot say your affairs are in order before joining the second one. And on the face of it, your actions could be said to be vindictive to the old and dishonest with the new.