planning permission for doos

[fodencat]

hi,i phoned my local planning office in dumfries last week to see about getting planning permission,and what i was told was if the loft is more than 5meters away from my house no permission is needed.

[Guest]

When I had a problem in Barnsley a few years back, my loft was not five yards from my conservatory. I was told the same thing if were adjoining the road it must be 5 yds /metres away. If you can comply with that you should be ok. But best advice is to contact planning and ask them the rules before you do anything

Sorry didn't see IB post above when I posted this, however 5 yds was at that time in England the rule, best contact your local planning, they will not give you incorrect advice but they won't volunteer it if you don't ask.

[Guest shadow]

the last ruling in england was 5 metres from the house

[BLACK W F]

HI Ted  you could have had any of my 3 sect lofts for nothing  in June past too late now i burnt them down as i built new lofts

my lofts are in my back garden all as i was told keep it 6 mtres from house but might need planning permision as i have a path way back of me but the women i spoke to from planning ofice told me to put it up and save your self £150 as long as your neibours do not complain no problems but had sorted that out before lofts wnt up and i in same fed as you doomaloon

cheers alan

[cemetary]

If you get on with the neighbours then you have cracked it, ask them before you apply and see what they say about it.  

[DOVEScot]

We live in a conservation area and no matter what we do we have to get planning consent, it is just bureaucracy as there is no fee and as long as you stay within normal planning consent they cannot object. you can argue most things but it takes time and when you are moving house and pigeons it is something you don't have a lot of  :-/

[Guest IB]

hi,i phoned my local planning office in dumfries last week to see about getting planning permission,and what i was told was if the loft is more than 5meters away from my house no permission is needed.

 

I was told a similar thing when I enquired, mine was using my garage, I was told as it is an existing building, no planning permission was needed.

 

Should have explained in my previous post that planning permission is not required for certain things (like garden sheds for example) and called 'permitted development' in the Town & Country Planning Act.

 

If it is permitted development then it is exactly the same as having planning permission for it, except you don't need to go thro the application process.

 

Even tho the road is within the 20 metres, it doesn't mean you can't get the loft up, all it means is you have to go thro the application process, which might also include informing the neighbours.

 

The downside of 'permitted development' is that it now includes mini-turbines for household electricity generation, so you might get these going up in gardens all over UK.

[smiler]

im in dundee and have put up 2 new lofts this yr my local council wonted  neighbours to sign saying they agreed 2 pigeon lofts, and lofts were not allowed 2 be a third of the size of my garden,, think each council have different rules

[doomaloon]

to be fair the cooncil have been very good and helpful and have told me i can put up a 10 x 10 next to the house to get the birds settled and they would rather not be involved but if a complaint is made they would be obliged to follow it up so ill sus out the neighbours first. mind you one is a polisman so i dont had oot much hope .will keep you all posted and thanksfor all the help.      sandy

[Guest IB]

im in dundee and have put up 2 new lofts this yr my local council wonted  neighbours to sign saying they agreed 2 pigeon lofts, and lofts were not allowed 2 be a third of the size of my garden,, think each council have different rules

 

Well for us at least it all comes down from the Scottish Parliament to the Councils, so it should be the same rules.

 

Again, the rool's written in double dutch, but I think in plain Scots it means you can't have a muckle dookit in a wee garden:-

 

(e)  the total area of ground covered by buildings within the plot (other than the original dwellinghouse) can't be more than 50% of the total area of the plot (excluding the ground area of the original dwellinghouse)

[REDCHEQHEN]

the last ruling in england was 5 metres from the house

 

That is still the ruling - but a brick garage also counts as part of a house - so if the garage is set back from the house and you can't get a further 5 metres from that - then you have to have planning permission - this happened to a friend of ours - who in the end was quite willing to knock the garage down ..!

[eastcoaster]

If you get on with the neighbours then you have cracked it, ask them before you apply and see what they say about it.  

 

I asked my na bor he said ok afew weeks later he changed his mind!!!! my solicitor told me they cannot do anything about it ,How many Doo`s do i have in my shed ? 3 late breds and they don`t get out it`s only temprary till i move , but she next door don`t want pigeons next to her 5 bedroom detatched hoose ,TUFF sh** , my lawyer also said to tell her it`s pigeons or breeding rats as there is no legal case against rats LOL LOL

[smiler]

as i said b4 i had to get neibours 2 agree my next door neibour did not sign  but all the rest did,,,, (her opion was pigeon were vermin and wud atract vermin) with a lot of help frm the shu and smy other neighbours i got my lofts

[ChrisMaidment08]

my naighbour was all for birds to my face loved seing them and the colours but behind my back diffrent so i told him his choice good naighbour or i make bad naigbour no problems since

[doomaloon]

hey smiler in what way were the shu able to help

[BLACK W F]

Sandy take around a couple of bottles of wiskey get him pissed he will agree to any thing

cheers Alan