Racing untrained yearlings

[alex wight]

Alex, dont race them on widowhood as you will not benefit from this system, in the long run. Here, in Scotland, widowhood with yearlings, in my opinion , is not the way to establish a decent team for the channel. It may give you good results early doors but Im afraid you will lose more birds. Personally, if I was starting out and wanted to build a team for the distance,  I would fly them naturally up to 260 miles this year and then next year they can go as far as you want. PATIENCE , is the key mate, but you already know that. All the best,

 

Derek Hay

 

I,ve got the feeling that a short season this year may be the way to go, which i had planned for. And next year i,ll have a better idea how they have faired. My main season this year without a doubt is my yb, so patience will be a big factor. Natural was what i done well in when i was racing before, so i,m used to that system. cheers for all the advice, very interesting.

[robbiedoo.]

alex in 2005 i lost a youngster of the loft it came back march 2006 not trained or anything . in the 2006 season i put her to every race and she won bird on the result the most just lost her last season .youl get a lot of different replys i think its just a question of watching your numbers there strange things as you already know

[alex wight]

alex in 2005 i lost a youngster of the loft it came back march 2006 not trained or anything . in the 2006 season i put her to every race and she won bird on the result the most just lost her last season .youl get a lot of different replys i think its just a question of watching your numbers there strange things as you already know

 

Just glad i,m grey haired before the season starts ;D ;D ;D

[ALF]

Cracking top Robbie ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest redwhiteblue]

Cracking top Robbie ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

off topic  alf

[cemetary]

Not very often you get 2 daftys the gether.  ;D

[cemetary]

Not very often you get 2 daftys the gether.  ;D

[alex wight]

3 now

[Guest redwhiteblue]

Not very often you get 2 daftys the gether.  ;D

 

have you got a stutter

[jimmy white]

;D ;D ;D,,,,,

maybe worth remembering the famous" auld reekie" was trained as a yb,, went to a one loft race that year,,then broken,, never raced as a yearling,,, one of the best birds ever

[cemetary]

3 Thats including you, numpty.

 

You shouldnt need to ask for advice eck.

[alex wight]

3 Thats including you, numpty.

 

You shouldnt need to ask for advice eck.

 

its always nice to hear others views douglas ;D i,ll still kick your ass  ;D ;D

[cemetary]

Just mind, i will be training yer jucks ecky boy, and we will see how you get on, you have to get past the first race mind.

 

If your going to cut the racing short, i will be leaving you well behind, so that means i will be the one who will be kicking your ass, dafty.

 

Yes there is some interesting points from various guys on here, but am surprised with someone who nose it all is asking for other people advice.  :-/ :-/ :-/ you have me baffled.

[alex wight]

Just mind, i will be training yer jucks ecky boy, and we will see how you get on, you have to get past the first race mind.

 

If your going to cut the racing short, i will be leaving you well behind, so that means i will be the one who will be kicking your ass, dafty.

 

Yes there is some interesting points from various guys on here, but am surprised with someone who nose it all is asking for other people advice.  :-/ :-/ :-/ you have me baffled.

 

you can always pick up wee tips, you never know everything. Short season maybe but that will be enough for me. pop along and i,ll show you how its done ;D ;D ;D

[cemetary]

Show me what ya dafty,

 

Am looking for something to put me on the game, not put me aff it.  ;D ;D ;D

[Tony C]

My first priority would be getting them home. If your going to race roundabout or w/hood have them sitting eggs for your intended first race and remove the hens after that. The next 2 or 3 weeks just show them the nestbowl as you dont want them getting over excited whilst still novicey. I wouldn't expect to much from them early doors and those that do show promise I'd wrap in cotton wool.

[Guest spin cycle]

i didn't race ybs in my first season, raced them lightly as yearlings and had them come good as 2 y/o. i generally still wait until our comeback races (mid may) before i put to many yearlings in....but in a nice april with short racepoints it could be an opportunity to try a few. i'm probably over cautious...but i hate the phone going 'i've got yer pigeon'. i've also yet to win with a yearling thats raced as a yb....but have won a couple of yearlings that didn't. best of luck

[weecunny]

treat them like yb mate

[newbold]

treat them as yung birds and start of with short chucks till you know they are coming well then start abit further and so on.

then you will know when they are ready

[cemetary]

weecunny hes liike you a youngbird, no sorry dafty.  ;D ;D ;D

[ribble]

I'm in a similar situation with some of mine well six, never been in a basket.

I plan to let them rear to hopefully forge a stronger bond to the loft then train them up and send them to the come back races in between the channel events.

Then ask questions next year. But I'm pretty sure there is no right or wrong way in whatever choice we make!!

[Guest chrisss]

I'm in a similar situation with some of mine well six, never been in a basket.

I plan to let them rear to hopefully forge a stronger bond to the loft then train them up and send them to the come back races in between the channel events.

Then ask questions next year. But I'm pretty sure there is no right or wrong way in whatever choice we make!!

 

got the same problem i trained last year,then could not race,now i have 18 birds never raced,was going to train and maybe,use some of the shorter races this year,but last week my mum died,so i might get about two comeback races in,if i am very lucky,its getting to a stage where i might end up flying untested 2 year olds :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

[ribble]

Sorry to hear that.

No one knows the right way to go, you could give them a few chucks and send them to the first race and every race after and not loose many. I could go my way and loose them all next year.

Whatever you do good luck.

[Guest chrisss]

cheers mate i got through my daughter dying and still kept my birds and have no doubt it will be the same again,who knows one of these days i might have a "normal"season ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest IB]

I don't think there is any hard and fast rules regarding raced YBs being superior to unraced ones, it seems to be down to the quality of the pigeon.

 

Late 2007 I was gifted 2 YBs that had been trained not raced. I trained them the following year 2008, lost one before racing began, but the other had 5 races out to 257 miles (and would have gone further had I not messed up setting her up]. 185/257 miles is what I would expect of a young bird, so seems a reasonable benchmark for an unraced yearling, you are treating it as if it was a YB.