bird loses

[PATTY BHOY]

Everybody has opinions of why some have heavy loses and difficulty in birds finishing a race series. Most fanciers say it is the difficulty of the race conditions (weather), others say the young age of the birds, others the frequency of the races and some the quality of the birds. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but my opinion and reasons are completely different.

 

I believe the major reason for the heavy looses is one of the following or a combination of several of reasons below:

 

Birds are not fed properly.

Birds are over trained.

Birds are not medicated properly.

Birds are not educated.

Birds are overcrowded in flying loft.

 

[lithgilad]

Everybody has opinions of why some have heavy loses and difficulty in birds finishing a race series. Most fanciers say it is the difficulty of the race conditions (weather), others say the young age of the birds, others the frequency of the races and some the quality of the birds. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but my opinion and reasons are completely different.

 

I believe the major reason for the heavy looses is one of the following or a combination of several of reasons below:

 

Birds are not fed properly.

Birds are over trained.

Birds are not medicated properly.

Birds are not educated.

Birds are overcrowded in flying loft.

ur birds r aw junkies

 

[jock3]

try race controllers mate

[les]

HAWKS

[lithgilad]

try race controllers mate

 

u appling for the job jock ;D

[BANDIT]

you left the main one out percy and more percy , from realease and all the way home attacked all the way. bandit

[lithgilad]

get birds streetwise do hawks have a deepfreezer they canny eat them aw every sat

 

[PATTY BHOY]

Everybody has opinions of why some have heavy loses and difficulty in birds finishing a race series. Most fanciers say it is the difficulty of the race conditions (weather), others say the young age of the birds, others the frequency of the races and some the quality of the birds. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but my opinion and reasons are completely different.

 

I believe the major reason for the heavy looses is one of the following or a combination of several of reasons below:

 

Birds are not fed properly.

Birds are over trained.

Birds are not medicated properly.

Birds are not educated.

Birds are overcrowded in flying loft.

 

missed out sparrowhawks,goshawks,peregrines and the numptys who go shooting for fun.

[blackdog]

try race controllers mate

 

agree 100%

 

 

[Roland]

Well we'll number them as such for any comments.

 

1. Birds are not fed properly.

2. Birds are over trained.

3. Birds are not medicated properly.

4. Birds are not educated.

5. Birds are overcrowded in flying loft.

                         Here are my thoughts and views for what they are worth.

 

1. If you mean for the task in hand I'd agree somewhat.... though one must remember that Birds throughout the 30's onwards to the ( Feeding tok hold in the 90's really) 90's flew the distances and hard races, and many in comparison with far better velocities than today!

 

2. Yes definately, was a benefit that in yesteryear one wasn't able to afford, so that was better for the pigeons I guess  :-/

3. Disagree, over medicated today, and certainly in two respects A. Willy Nilly because they hear so and so, and such and such ... and reality know not what harm they do. And B.

Is harming the birds natural constitution.

4. Codswallop. How can any one teach any creature any thing.... especially when no one has in reality the first notion as to how pigeons home. Theories and conjecture at best. Have here over 240 pages of tests and educating pigeons... All the tests etc. over the lat 69 years.... only one conclusion.... Still know nowt, and haven't a clue.

5. Well the bad managerment lame crutch. Absolute coswallap. Is against the very nature, and what makes pigeon thrive, and eager to get home. Indeed is a natural inbuilt 'Jealousy Motivation'.

But then again we have exhausted that lame duck I guess.

JMO

[Fair Play]

I think jock3 has a valid point

[weecunny]

I think jock3 has a valid point

 

miby if u take ur birds oot the cottenwool  u will only train on good days . mibi if u train or let them oot in bad weather  they mite make it hame if they hit rain or wind an a race day.its easy ti blame the controler every time u lose or have a bad day . well as asee it they do there best each week and each year so if it there falt why no vote them oot and doooooo it urself

[cemetary]

Thats a long speach from you dafty, you must have been working on that one all week.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[weecunny]

i cem but it true some folks need ti look at there self first afore blaming everybody else  it never there falt lol

[cemetary]

Well if you dont wont to blame yerself, blame something else, isnt that the way it happens.

 

Wheres the other dafty,  ;D ;D ;D

[Guest spin cycle]

if we're talking about yb racing then...and its only my opinion.....money and percieved glory. think about it...someone decides to have a larger yb team than his rivals...then the rest,in order to keep up, do the same, the quality/ attention/ training go down a little in some lofts..they loose a few, so they breed more...then their rivals breed more to keep up. soon fanciers are breeding teams to 'survive' the programme...breeding more...attending less...loosing more...a viscious circle. having said all that yb racing is the 'backbone' of pigeon racings finances...so where does a solution lie ? as i've only been in the sport 4 years i've a 'detached' view and have decided that yb racing is not really for me. therefore ...again IMO....you either opt out (as i) or accept the losses.however by observing the better yb flyers around me i do have a hunch that you have to train A LOT to be good with ybs so perhaps only breed what you can easily train.

[weecunny]

if the birds are fit  and trained they will come through anything if mine go down a blame ma self for missing sumthing no the controler

[lithgilad]

other dafty here

[cemetary]

Thats not always the case ya dafty, there has been plenty of fit doos that have been losted from a toss of 20 miles, and they were at the race the other week, so dont talk a load of bull, go and get yir ovaltine then onto bed.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[cemetary]

Just in from the boozer ya numpty, we have been missing yi.  ;D

[lithgilad]

lol  that u told wee cunny ;D

[lithgilad]

naw i only drink tea

[Guest]

ive 4 in the loft injured wires hawks etc so its not all the birds fault

[weecunny]

well explain how some make it home if it weather surly they aw would get lost ya numpty up the arabs

[weecunny]

no saying its the birds falt it the keepers falt was at ur lib at thorton and the weather was fine so how come ur fed got heavy loses.the controler and the convoyer did the job spot on that day as far as a could c