chris h Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Sand and lime mix on the loft floor.what is the lime for?????????
blackdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 the lime will keep the floor dry chriss and help to keep the nasties away but if your going to use it where a mask mate, used to use it a few years ago but stopped using it because it was getting in the birds eyes when they flew about, try using loft white and sand mixed as its just as good and wont sting the birds eyes chriss.
showman Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Not 100% sure, but it may go way back to when lime could have been quick-lime, which was used (amongst other things) to speed up decomposition. As suggested previously, it was probably used to kill off anything nasty in the droppings. I would use the loft white. After scraping I give a spray of Vanodine & Jeyes, then sprinkle loft white, give it a good brush over, then remove excess loft white.
sammy Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 kept the droppings dry ,anyone know the name of it and were it can be had ??
Guest IB Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Been a few reports of birds eyes being burnt, as blackdog says, I think that is because one of the 'hot' limes has been used instead of Calcium carbonate, agricultural lime flour. Costs around £4 for 25kg bag. Think your floor white is much the same thing, just a brand names added, smaller bags, bigger price. Kills smell. Kills micro-organisms by sticking to and drying them out.
pjc Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 i thought the stuff we used to use was limestone flour,
Guest IB Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Think it was 'Old Hand' who advocated the use of slaked lime. It a hot lime, and the Health & Safety blurb on it makes me think it caused bother for the birds:- Extract from Health & Safety Data Sheet. Calcium Hydroxide 1. Identification of Substance A fine, dry white powder. Product name: Hydrated lime. CAS No. 1305 – 62- 0 3. Composition/Information on Ingredients Chemical description Calcium Hydroxide Ca(OH)2 > 90%. Small quantities of calcium carbonate, magnesia and trace elements. Hazardous ingredient – Calcium hydroxide. 4. Hazards Identification • irritating to eyes and skin • risk of serious damage to eyes • may cause burns in the presence of moisture 5. First Aid Measures Skin contact An irritant; may cause burns in presence of moisture. Remove contaminated clothing. Wash immediately with plenty of water. Eye Contact Causes painful irritation and may cause serious damage to eyes unless immediate treatment is given. SPEED IS ESSENTIAL. Remove particles with cotton wool bud, irrigate with eyewash or clean water for at least 15 minutes. Obtain medical attention as soon as possible. Inhalation Irritating to the respiratory tract in high concentration. Remove from exposure and keep warm and at rest. Irrigate nose and throat with water for at least 20 minutes. Ingestion Unlikely to cause any reactions. Larger doses may irritate gastrointestinal tract. Do not induce vomiting, wash out mouth with water and give copious quantities of water to drink. Further medical treatment Symptomatic, if necessary. No known delayed effects. Prolonged or repeated contact with skin may result in more severe irritation or dermatitis. It is advisable to ensure that eyewash facilities are readily available where Hydralime may be handled. IRRITANT
micci Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 mix slaked garden lime with water and paint it on the floor and in any cracks, dont blow about, and keeps nasties at bay, i think Bernie Bennett BHW uses the same method !!!
sammy Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 mix slaked garden lime with water and paint it on the floor and in any cracks, dont blow about, and keeps nasties at bay, i think Bernie Bennett BHW uses the same method !!! thats how they make the lines on football parks
Guest IB Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 mix slaked garden lime with water and paint it on the floor and in any cracks, dont blow about, and keeps nasties at bay, i think Bernie Bennett BHW uses the same method !!! Mix slaked lime with water and it goes back to calcium carbonate. I think what you are describing is what used to be called 'limewash' and was used for painting inside of backyard poultry houses, and pigeon lofts..
Novice Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Mix slaked lime with water and it goes back to calcium carbonate. I think what you are describing is what used to be called 'limewash' and was used for painting inside of backyard poultry houses, and pigeon lofts.. Also used for painting the outside of country cottages around here.
micci Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 and when i was a kid the outside lav was painted in it...no inside lav them days!!!
Guest IB Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 i got some of that limestone flour hv to say its too dust e for me only got 3/4 off a bag to go lol ;D If you are using it on its own, you are supposed to use sparingly, and brush it in. If you've used 'floor white' , instructions say exactly same thing.
david.j Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 how much is this limestone flour and how big a bag and where you get it i think we use to use it underground in coal mine
Roland Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Always use to use garden lime. Does away with many nasties and loverly fresh smell. One should dab / rub it in with a rag like. A slight damp one regardless of IB's taboo's on E Coli etc. Mostly in later days I would mix like a think paint and paint every thing. Now pne can get a Agri Lime, sold in 25 kg bags, for approx £5, It does everything good that lime should do, but doesn't lift when birds flap wings, thus eliminating all that unpleasantness associated with regular lime. I've often scrape out then brush in lime. Many of us, most in one club swear by putting a Table spoon full in the drinkers, well stirred and left over nigh for the birds to have next day. I / we believe this has the calming effect and is a good proventive against Y/B sickness.
chickadee Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 I brush it into the floor of the aviaries with a stiff brush then sweep it back up again, leaves the slabs nice white and clean
biglad Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 brush on brush it out lime irradicates nasties old fashioned disinfectant
Pompey Mick Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Bartholomews of Chichester stock limestone flour, (where Gem Supplements is based). You have to pre-order first. http://www.bartholomews.co.uk/
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