Buzzards

[catchthepigeon]

i have to agree with shotgun tim ive seen my doo's mob sparrowhawks ,percy and buzzards many a time ,if they are close to them they cant stoop on them jmo.

Sparrow hawks dont hover so does your birds mob it when its resting. Thats just not going to happen.sINCE IT SEEMS A FEW MEMBERS ON HERE HAVE SEEN THERE BIRDS DOING THIS AND ON A REGULAR Basis i would like to challenge them to get this on video and post it on youtube as previously mentioned by dovescot  and that will put the subject to rest.

[billt]

I've never seen my birds mob a BOP, quite the opposite, when percy is about mine split in all directions, some climb some dive for home

[Guest frank dooman]

Sparrow hawks dont hover so does your birds mob it when its resting. Thats just not going to happen.sINCE IT SEEMS A FEW MEMBERS ON HERE HAVE SEEN THERE BIRDS DOING THIS AND ON A REGULAR Basis i would like to challenge them to get this on video and post it on youtube as previously mentioned by dovescot  and that will put the subject to rest.

 

you seem to believe that it doesnt happen just because you havent seen it thats your right but why are you throwing down challanges do you expect us all to run around with video camara,s hanging to our belts calm down its your choice believe or not ive seen mine on a no. of occiasions going towards the bop when i thought they should be heading in the other direction iam not talking about when the s/h or percy or buz. is attacking but when they are high in the sky

[mick..1978]

the BUZZARD is a scavinger it will only hunt injured pray so i wouldnt be to worryed

[Guest frank dooman]

Part of the pigeon game isnt it all the tall storys that go with it  ;D

 

do you have your own BOP with a name like catch the pigeon??????

[hotrod]

Sparrow hawks dont hover so does your birds mob it when its resting. Thats just not going to happen.sINCE IT SEEMS A FEW MEMBERS ON HERE HAVE SEEN THERE BIRDS DOING THIS AND ON A REGULAR Basis i would like to challenge them to get this on video and post it on youtube as previously mentioned by dovescot  and that will put the subject to rest.

 

i know that a sparrowhawk does hover  but it does circle high in the sky occasionaly, this is when my birds head towards it and they seem to usher it away ,ps i have better eyesight than most .isnt that right frank?

[Guest frank dooman]

 

i know that a sparrowhawk does hover  but it does circle high in the sky  occasionaly this is when my birds head towards it and they seem to usher it away ,ps i have better eyesight than most .isnt that right frank?

 

£25 grand better!!!!!!! is catch the pigeon off line since i mentioned his bop can a mod check some ip address please

[REDCHEQHEN]

Sparrow hawks 'hover' -  as in they flap their wings and stay in the same place especially when fixated on their prey - then they pounce

[billt]

Sparrow hawks 'hover' -  as in they flap their wings and stay in the same place especially when fixated on their prey - then they pounce

 

Idon't think so are you thinking of the kestrel

[Guest bakes]

i havent seen sparrow hawk or pergine get bombed by my birds but have seen my birds flying around the local buzzards trying to drive it off seen it last saturday when me and the misses was walking up to my mates house a member on her camphill kids another local flyer mark aston had his birds up they was flying towards and circleing around a buzzard stood there watching marks birds doing this for a few minutes the misses seen it first she said look marks birds are up and there having a go at that buzzard next time i see my birds do it will gladly put the video link on here ive seen my birds do this at least 3 times since i started up with the doo's

 

all the best.

[Guest frank dooman]

Sparrow hawks 'hover' -  as in they flap their wings and stay in the same place especially when fixated on their prey - then they pounce

 

i think its more they pos. them self against the wind wich to me also looks as though they are hovering

[hotrod]

 

Idon't think so are you thinking of the kestrel

 

NO MATE, I KNOW THE S/H DOES HOVER  but not for long but it defo does mate.

[billt]

 

NO MATE, I KNOW THE S/H DOES HOVER  but not for long but it defo does mate.

 

Are you saying male or female as there's a huge differance in sizes, the hen is a bit large for hovering

[hotrod]

 

Are you saying male or female as there's a huge differance in sizes, the hen is a bit large for hovering

 

both mate but as frankdooman says its normally in a strong wind ,just like the buzzard does ,and i know the size of cock and hen s/h's

[billt]

 

both mate but as frankdooman says its normally in a strong wind ,just like the buzzard does ,and i know the size of cock and hen s/h's

 

Yeh I see what your saying the can hold their position in a wind

[Guest stb-]

 

both mate but as frankdooman says its normally in a strong wind ,just like the buzzard does ,and i know the size of cock and hen s/h's

 

They glide around with the wind and thermals not hovering like a keteral as such but using the wind and thermals to hold themselves stationary for short periods

[Guest IB]

I think 'mobbing' is maybe the wrong word? I've posted before on streetwise actions of racing pigeons when there's bop about, seen it here now for years. The birds will take to the air and quickly gain height till they are same height as bop, or above it. Bop needs to be above the bird before it can strike. Few years back now, but watched my youngbirds fly backwards & forwards toward a hen sparrowhawk, flying same height, so birds seemed to sense they were safe. Wasn't pleased watching it though, I thought my birds were acting stupid. Obviously knew more than I did.    

[DOVEScot]

 

you seem to believe that it doesnt happen just because you havent seen it thats your right but why are you throwing down challanges do you expect us all to run around with video camara,s hanging to our belts calm down its your choice believe or not ive seen mine on a no. of occiasions going towards the bop when i thought they should be heading in the other direction iam not talking about when the s/h or percy or buz. is attacking but when they are high in the sky

 

I am the same Frank, although I think you are a man that is true to his word and also others that have posted the same I personally find it hard to believe that pigeons mob any birds of prey, everyday is a school day and I am willing to learn

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

i dont know ifmob is the right word dovy as ib said but they defently fly towards them as if they know when they get on the same level they are safe but it does make your heart race a bit ive been out side shouting and bawling get out of there are yous mad the neighbours must think iam the mad one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest frank dooman]

oh and i think catch the pigeon could be hawkbait and also a few others could be wrong but i wasnt the last time he was on

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I have seen my birds circle the buzzards.  They fly above them and below them.  I have seen them fly that close that I thought they were going to collide.  they were flying similar to tumblers in as much as they seemed to be deliberately dropping onto the buzzards.  Whether you would call it mobbing, I don't know, I wouldn't.  They didn't seem bothered in any way, but neither did the buzzards.  I have at least 4 pairs of buzzards very close to me.  There are also loads of kestrels.  I have seen a quite large "kestrel", but it were hovering, so didn't think it was a sparrowhawk.  I had an attack at the loft and all I seen was what looked like a very large bop taking off and leaving the pigeon which died later.  I thought it may have been the buzzard although I didn't think they were fast enough for the pigeons.  I was told it may have been a peregrine.  The pigeons have been in since cause I'm just starting and can't afford any more losses.  They took all day to come back and 3 never returned plus the 1 that died.

[Guest stb-]

i dont know ifmob is the right word dovy as ib said but they defently fly towards them as if they know when they get on the same level they are safe but it does make your heart race a bit ive been out side shouting and bawling get out of there are yous mad the neighbours must think iam the mad one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Its no so bad when they just fly round them ,its when you get a dafty in the batch that decides to dive for the ground thats when you panic.

 

you always get a mad yb that goes for it with the swing wing up its ers ??) ??)

[catchthepigeon]

 

you seem to believe that it doesnt happen just because you havent seen it thats your right but why are you throwing down challanges do you expect us all to run around with video camara,s hanging to our belts calm down its your choice believe or not ive seen mine on a no. of occiasions going towards the bop when i thought they should be heading in the other direction iam not talking about when the s/h or percy or buz. is attacking but when they are high in the sky

You wont see a buzzard attacking very often and did i throw down a challenge personally to you frank?  Some people do have camcorders   if you cant prove it and i have never seen it then why cant someone film it  

 

[catchthepigeon]

 

do you have your own BOP with a name like catch the pigeon??????

 

;D

[DOVEScot]

i dont know ifmob is the right word dovy as ib said but they defently fly towards them as if they know when they get on the same level they are safe but it does make your heart race a bit ive been out side shouting and bawling get out of there are yous mad the neighbours must think iam the mad one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

If my birds are out and around the lofts and they are lucky enough to see a sparrow hawk they take to the wing or head into the loft as sparrow hawks attack birds especially bigger ones while they are resting and not on the wing. They do soar up high in the sky but they are stealth attackers and pigeons know this so they are not worried if they appear when they are up high. They also chase birds into exhaustion and prey on them

 

Peregrines are different they hunt on the wing either by getting up above their prey and punching one of them out the sky by dropping on them or striking a flock and taking one as best as they can that is why they cause so much havoc especially at liberation's and groups heading home

 

I still think that at hot spots they should be hiring falconers with eagle owls to sort out peregrines before liberation and race paths  :-/