Roaming

[Guest]

In all the years I have kept pigeons i have never known my youngster not to roam. Since moving to my present address, and starting back up again, my youngsters will not go roaming the skies, but will fly around the loft in my sight for over an hour morning and night, I am a bit concerned about starting to train them. Any ideas??

[pjc]

If they are ready to train Bob then Do'nt worry about them roaming, i've had years when mine have stayed in view and others where they have gone off for hours but the result has always been the same.

[chickadee]

We are having the same problem, Valiant was here at the w/e and said it was because our fantails were bringing them down too quick. I can keep most in but not all as we have 4 dove cotes

[REDCHEQHEN]

Mine are the opposite

and I'm fed up with them

 

I don't know what the answer is anymore (shrug)

 

[pigeonpete]

Glad you fetched this up bob, Mine are the same, go out of site for 2 mins, then whoosh back again. They fly for an hour though. thats why i havent trained them yet as thought they needed to roam before training?

[boxer]

In all the years I have kept pigeons i have never known my youngster not to roam. Since moving to my present address, and starting back up again, my youngsters will not go roaming the skies, but will fly around the loft in my sight for over an hour morning and night, I am a bit concerned about starting to train them. Any ideas??

were having the same problem there all nearly through the moult and they will only fly around the house. the bloody hawks might have something to do with it mind

 

 

[Roland]

Strange that Bob, Had same trouble with them last couple of years.... never done any good with them, Thought it was because they were all bought in.

Remember well An article by Bilco late 80's where he stated same about Wires, took a couple of years for the birds to know that tjhey were there. Had many hit them.... after 2 years hardly if any hit them. Thought it was because it was 'Bred' in them.

Now I see the y/bs bred down ranging singularly like I;ve never seen before.... the later introduction y/bs hardly want out their loft. Laze around and pick and peck.

Took an older yougster - that hardly ever stay out long, and never ever even flew upto the top and put him up 20 yards facing the loft. Flew into a bush. Then up on the loft. Up and own a few times in the next four hours. At 7 Roof top and up and down. 7 300 circled around. lnded on roof a couple of time.... never seen him again yet. Hopefully his first night out will wett an appertite to be back home... or not. Maybe he will settle over the road with the 100's on the ole cinema.

[Guest]

Glad I am not alone, but after the same thing last year, when I did decide to take them training I had a disaster, lost most. I know there could have been 101 reasons for last years losses, but it does sow the seed of doubt in your mind. I know I live in the countryside and can see for miles, so maybe I am being over cautious.

Then, living in towns, once they go over the roof tops they are out of sight, but I suppose they could be circling half a mile down the road, who knows

[Guest Owen]

I am struck by the number of times I am out of step with most other Fanciers. If my young pigeons start to roam, I cut the food down so that they are under my control. Sure I like them to gain height and fly in wide circles, but no way will I allow roaming.

In this area, near Pontypool, there are literally thousands of young pigeons wheeling about in the skies. It goes on for hours on end. But when it comes to racing they are not all that great in spite of all the flying they do.

In the past I have had people tell me proudly that their birds are, "Knocking the skies out". My usual reply is, that they are in the wrong sport. They ought to take up tippler flying. One or two things are certain. The peregrines are having a woderful time and the losses that most of these Fanciers have is really enormous.

So what's it all about? Just concentrate of getting your birds in excellent health and train them well. That way they will do what they have been bred to do, win races.

[Guest]

I am struck by the number of times I am out of step with most other Fanciers. If my young pigeons start to roam, I cut the food down so that they are under my control. Sure I like them to gain height and fly in wide circles, but no way will I allow roaming.

In this area, near Pontypool, there are literally thousands of young pigeons wheeling about in the skies. It goes on for hours on end. But when it comes to racing they are not all that great in spite of all the flying they do.

In the past I have had people tell me proudly that their birds are, "Knocking the skies out". My usual reply is, that they are in the wrong sport. They ought to take up tippler flying. One or two things are certain. The peregrines are having a woderful time and the losses that most of these Fanciers have is really enormous.

So what's it all about? Just concentrate of getting your birds in excellent health and train them well. That way they will do what they have been bred to do, win races.

 

Owen, that does not mean that your opinion doesn't count, or indeed is not valid, I asked for thoughts and ideas and your reply is just that. ;D as are everyone elses replies. I may be 61, and kept pigeons all my life, but I am never too old to learn.

[pigeonpete]

So will my ybs be o.k to go training with never gone off ranging?? if so there going tonight :-)

[ch pied]

I am struck by the number of times I am out of step with most other Fanciers. If my young pigeons start to roam, I cut the food down so that they are under my control. Sure I like them to gain height and fly in wide circles, but no way will I allow roaming.

In this area, near Pontypool, there are literally thousands of young pigeons wheeling about in the skies. It goes on for hours on end. But when it comes to racing they are not all that great in spite of all the flying they do.

In the past I have had people tell me proudly that their birds are, "Knocking the skies out". My usual reply is, that they are in the wrong sport. They ought to take up tippler flying. One or two things are certain. The peregrines are having a woderful time and the losses that most of these Fanciers have is really enormous.

So what's it all about? Just concentrate of getting your birds in excellent health and train them well. That way they will do what they have been bred to do, win races.

( CONTROL ) say's it all , also agree with entire post .

 

 

[just ask me]

well i do like too see mine roaming just a question how many of u are on darkness

[Guest]

My youngsters have never been on darkness ever since I started keeping pigeons. Interested to know why you think darkness is a factor.

[Guest]

give them a 2 mile toss bob

[Guest Owen]

pigeonpete

the answer to your question is yes. The rider is that you need to make sure that they are in good health. I had an incident a couple of years ago that might help you.

My young birds would not fly. They had been on darkness and looked great. All they had in their minds was hanging about at the loft and it took ages before they took off at all. Time was going on and there was no away that I could train them. I phoned David Parsons the vet for advice. "Have you tested them for cocci and canker" he asked? "No", I replied. "Well why don't you do it, you have a microscope", he advised.

They were full of cocci and some hair worm as well. It took me three treatments of Baycox to finally sort them out. They went on to win the first race and I had a good season with them after that.

So, perhaps you should get them checked out before you risk them in the basket. I live near Pontypool, and if you are close I will do the check for you.

[Roland]

Pigeonpete, many as I have often stated insisted on training before they are allowed to roam. Many roads lead to Rome.

Me, I like them searching the skies and disapearing. Love their swooping and soaring in sheer delelight and zest. then they do just as the like, till week of first birds race for them. 3 chucks and into the race.

But am being taught a few home truths in this score too over the last two season.

[just ask me]

My youngsters have never been on darkness ever since I started keeping pigeons. Interested to know why you think darkness is a factor.

 

well my own are on darkness but touch wood everything so far is going good as regards training and flying around the loft but do know of a few that are having problems with youngers flying and are on darkness it may be down too them being more sexually mature early in there lifes as when the birds go through the moult there hormone level drops but with darkness u dont get this and it can happen when on darkness all they want to do is pair up and not interested in flying like a normal youngster

[Guest paulrstokes]

Mine have not roamed at all, I took them 1 mile yesterday and they took 40 minutes, so spose thats as good as roaming.

[Guest numpty01]

well as useual i have to be difrent mine are out up and gone all 6 of um but i get hundreds through here everyday and mine go off with them so roaming yes

[rasbull]

My pigeons have not roamed but flying regularly around the house for upto 2 hours. Been training with them 35 miles line of flight upto 12 times now and lost 1 to date. I live in the Brecon Beacons and have been seriously lucky regarding hawks etc.

[Guest]

My pigeons have not roamed but flying regularly around the house for upto 2 hours. Been training with them 35 miles line of flight upto 12 times now and lost 1 to date. I live in the Brecon Beacons and have been seriously lucky regarding hawks etc.

blimey , flying for 2 hours ,what are you feeding them on ?         andy.

 

 

[Guest]

blimey , flying for 2 hours ,what are you feeding them on ?         andy.

 

maybe its a secret ??                        andy.

 

 

[rasbull]

no real secret, just feeding them plenty ;-)

[kipper]

mine were doing great , but the last few weeks the older cock birds are bringing them down to chase the hens, thinking of splitting them .  but they are training well , so not too sure. any advise welcome .