ALF Posted October 16, 2008 Report Posted October 16, 2008 Hi The 2 hour sitting rule before liberation I would like to see this rule deleted for races under 150 miles would allow more flexibility to the race controller Example ..... We can still use Otterburn but EC rules say the drivers cant because there is no facilities So we allow the drivers to park up at nearest truck stop/café and when a decision is made to lib they go there and lib immediately this takes about 25/40 Min's to prepare plus traveling Cheers Homer 49 So how far away from Otterburn is the nearest truck stop/cafe Homer? i take it you have already checked this out?
HOMER49 Posted October 16, 2008 Report Posted October 16, 2008 So how far away from Otterburn is the nearest truck stop/cafe Homer? i take it you have already checked this out? Hi Alf No but I will in the morning Cheers Homer 49
ALF Posted October 16, 2008 Report Posted October 16, 2008 Hi Alf No but I will in the morning Cheers Homer 49 Good man i dont want any repeat of the shambles that we have had in the last couple of years with people putting up race points and we cannae get into them so see how far away it is!!
Big Davie Posted October 16, 2008 Author Report Posted October 16, 2008 Hi Yes it is 2hours on site before lib know this for a fact Cheers Homer 49 Homer 49 Is this 2 hours on site or 2 hours at the nearest truck stop, im getting confused, if the 2 hour sitting rule is to be deleted, what are you proposing takes its place ???
ALF Posted October 16, 2008 Report Posted October 16, 2008 Homer 49 Is this 2 hours on site or 2 hours at the nearest truck stop, im getting confused, if the 2 hour sitting rule is to be deleted, what are you proposing takes its place ??? 2 hours in the nearest car park by the looks of things :-/
HOMER49 Posted October 16, 2008 Report Posted October 16, 2008 Homer 49 Is this 2 hours on site or 2 hours at the nearest truck stop, im getting confused, if the 2 hour sitting rule is to be deleted, what are you proposing takes its place ??? Hi Davie Sorry if I am confusing you but its the 2 hours on lib site If the proposed time of lib is 10 am transporters will be on site at 8am if the weather is not suitable they will sit there to the weather is with no facilities WHY ? Cheers Homer 49
Big Davie Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Posted October 17, 2008 Hi Davie Sorry if I am confusing you but its the 2 hours on lib site If the proposed time of lib is 10 am transporters will be on site at 8am if the weather is not suitable they will sit there to the weather is with no facilities WHY ? Cheers Homer 49 Homer im going to let you of the hook here, surely the trick is to locate Lib sites with facilities for the convoyer and drivers convenience, where the transporter can also be parked up for 2 hours allowing the birds to be watered before they are liberated,you say the 2 hour sitting rule should be deleted, what is going to replace it ????< this looks as if you are suggesting that for races under 150 miles the birds should be released asap after arrival on site without getting a drink.What this has got to do with race controller flexibility i dont know,as far as im concerned whether the birds are sitting at the local cafe / truck stop or racing from 60 to 600 mls then they should be given the opportunity to drink before they are liberated, the birds should always come first. cheers Davie
Guest bigda Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 i think the snfc should apply, and join the lanarkshire, and go with our new haulage transporter, with all the opens, available and duplications, and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09 could be a good year all we need is a few drivers, for transporters . 8)
Guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 i think the snfc should apply, and join the lanarkshire, and go with our new haulage transporter, with all the opens, available and duplications, and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09 could be a good year all we need is a few drivers, for transporters . 8) there you go Delboy,(ok)
Guest redwhiteblue Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 i think the snfc should apply, and join the lanarkshire, and go with our new haulage transporter, with all the opens, available and duplications, and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09 could be a good year all we need is a few drivers, for transporters . 8) Yes bigda we could all be smiling in 09 can we please have your conveyor jittery jim we could have a st boswells (newbury) kelso (eastbourne) towlaw falaise rippon (alecon) and wakefield tourres
Guest redwhiteblue Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 i think the snfc should apply, and join the lanarkshire, and go with our new haulage transporter, with all the opens, available and duplications, and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09 could be a good year all we need is a few drivers, for transporters . 8) Yes bigda we could all be smiling in 09 can we please have your conveyor jittery jim we could have a st boswells (newbury) kelso (eastbourne) towlaw falaise rippon (alecon) and wakefield tourres
Delboy Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 there you go Delboy,(ok) Keep me oot it ;D
Guest bigda Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 why not, with the lanarkshire sorry snfc agm tomorrow anythings possable, we might end up with one sprint open, and it been duplacated, just to keep the sprint boys happy,
HOMER49 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Homer im going to let you of the hook here, surely the trick is to locate Lib sites with facilities for the convoyer and drivers convenience, where the transporter can also be parked up for 2 hours allowing the birds to be watered before they are liberated,you say the 2 hour sitting rule should be deleted, what is going to replace it ????< this looks as if you are suggesting that for races under 150 miles the birds should be released asap after arrival on site without getting a drink.What this has got to do with race controller flexibility i dont know,as far as im concerned whether the birds are sitting at the local cafe / truck stop or racing from 60 to 600 mls then they should be given the opportunity to drink before they are liberated, the birds should always come first. cheers Davie Hi Davie Have a go yourself www.rpra.org/RacingSupport/UKLiberationSites lots of luck and Paul Daniels you ain't Personally I don't have a problem with the transporters sitting as close as possible to lib site with WATER in front of the birds and facilities for drivers then moving to lib site for release Cheers Homer 49
Big Davie Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Posted October 18, 2008 Neither do i homer, as long as this is what happens !!!. Going back to your first post on this subject, it was you who proposed that the 2 hour sitting time rule before lib should be deleted, ive asked you a number of times what you think should take its place but i have not as yet received an answer. Davie
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 some members would just love that Jade, 18/4 Kelso 25/4 Otterburn 2/5 Hexham 9/5 Ripon 16/5 Wakefield 23/5 Newark 30/5 Leicester Rest of the old bird season will be determined once the SNFC confirms their race programme. Young birds 25/7 Kelso 1/8 Kelso 8/8 Otterburn 15/8 Hexham 22/8 Wetherby 29/8 Otterburn ***
Delboy Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 some members would just love that Jade, 18/4 Kelso 25/4 Otterburn 2/5 Hexham 9/5 Ripon 16/5 Wakefield 23/5 Newark 30/5 Leicester Rest of the old bird season will be determined once the SNFC confirms their race programme. Young birds 25/7 Kelso 1/8 Kelso 8/8 Otterburn 15/8 Hexham 22/8 Wetherby 29/8 Otterburn *** Good programme, I heard if they dont get a Wetherby with the ybs, then they will use the last Otterburn to go to Wetherby.Good thinking
harky Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 how did it go? is it 6 kelsos for yb A WOULD SETTLE FOR THAT ;D ;D ;D AS LONG AS WE GET GOOD RACING
Delboy Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 Absolutely delighted with Lanarkshires yb racing this year
Guest bigda Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 lanarkshire now exposed, cant go the distance without the national, what about the guys who are not members of the national, again this is not in the interest of the lanarshire fed, regarding duplication, it still has an adverse effect on moneys available to pay out on pool money as there is only a limited amount of money about at best and now, it will leave it short in total, and cant see the pools last any more than 20th position in opens and sections but not to bothered about the effect it has on the national in general, should there be a big turn out of pigeons from the entrants from lanarkshire and the other clubs will there be enough cover for transport as at present no one knows the total amount of entrants for any one combined race and woulden"t like to be keept waiting till after dark, on duplacated races
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 Bigda Regarding your first comment on the pools, the question was asked today - did the fed pools suffer in Falaise when the members duplicated their pigeons, to which the fed secretary replied no they were at levels of the year before. cheers Gareth
Big Davie Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Posted October 18, 2008 lanarkshire now exposed, cant go the distance without the national, what about the guys who are not members of the national, again this is not in the interest of the lanarshire fed, regarding duplication, it still has an adverse effect on moneys available to pay out on pool money as there is only a limited amount of money about at best and now, it will leave it short in total, and cant see the pools last any more than 20th position in opens and sections but not to bothered about the effect it has on the national in general, should there be a big turn out of pigeons from the entrants from lanarkshire and the other clubs will there be enough cover for transport as at present no one knows the total amount of entrants for any one combined race and woulden"t like to be keept waiting till after dark, on duplacated races Bigda you have got to look at the big picture,Fed secretary also reported today that by going with the SNFC to Falaise in 2008 that we turned round a one thousand loss in 2007 to two thousand pound profit in 2008, a gain of three grand which is great business when you consider that we are going to need every penny we can muster when it comes to buying new transporters, if we go with the National 3 times in a season this could amount to a gain of around 10 grand in one year. Personally im delighted with the race programme, Gareth you forgot to mention that we also decided that we would now be flying the east route for the the next 3 years which is even better news. Davie
budgie Posted October 19, 2008 Report Posted October 19, 2008 Ist Class meeting yesterday with spirits were very.The Special Dupilcation Race for Yearlings wil be Leicester 30th May and Wetherby 22nd August for the young birds and the money regardless of where we race from that day will be paid out.There will also be a couple of comeback races in between the National Races which looks good for 2009. :)
Guest bigda Posted October 19, 2008 Report Posted October 19, 2008 Bigda Regarding your first comment on the pools, the question was asked today - did the fed pools suffer in Falaise when the members duplicated their pigeons, to which the fed secretary replied no they were at levels of the year before. cheers Gareth gareth has the fed, not enough money to put down a deposit on a geraldy just now, i see us in three years becoming smaller in strength and in numbers and still no sign of a new transporter and as far as losses are concerned thats neither here or there if we break even per year thats fine, but every year we are at a stand still there is"ent going to be a geraldy for our fed as we have to Manny birds and the 1 geraldy cant ferry all our birds at the moment, and no way is the fed is going to by two of them so i say the dream has ended till we lose members or birds sad as it is the fanciers should be told the truth of the matter now, as to find out latter :'( :'( so start using up the funds that we have in the bank on reduction birdage and the likes >
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