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Hi

The 2 hour sitting rule before liberation

I would like to see this rule deleted for races under 150 miles would allow more flexibility to the race controller

Example ..... We can still use Otterburn but EC rules say the drivers cant because there is no facilities

So we allow the drivers to park up at nearest truck stop/café and when a decision is made to lib they go there and lib immediately this takes about 25/40 Min's to prepare

plus traveling

Cheers

Homer 49

 

So how far away from Otterburn is the nearest truck stop/cafe Homer? i take it you have already checked this out?

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Posted

 

So how far away from Otterburn is the nearest truck stop/cafe Homer? i take it you have already checked this out?

 

Hi Alf

No but I will in the morning

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

Posted

 

Hi Alf

No but I will in the morning

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

Good man i dont want any repeat of the shambles that we have had in the last couple of years with people putting up race points and we cannae get into them so see how far away it is!!

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Hi

Yes it is  2hours on site before lib know this for a fact

Cheers

Homer 49

 

Homer 49 Is this 2 hours on site or 2 hours at the nearest truck stop, im getting confused, if the 2 hour sitting rule is to be deleted, what are you proposing takes its place ???

 

 

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Homer 49 Is this 2 hours on site or 2 hours at the nearest truck stop, im getting confused, if the 2 hour sitting rule is to be deleted, what are you proposing takes its place ???

 

 

2 hours in the nearest car park by the looks of things :-/

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Homer 49 Is this 2 hours on site or 2 hours at the nearest truck stop, im getting confused, if the 2 hour sitting rule is to be deleted, what are you proposing takes its place ???

 

 

Hi Davie

Sorry if I am confusing you but its the 2 hours on lib site

If the proposed time of lib is 10 am transporters will be on site at 8am if the weather is not suitable they will sit there to the weather is with no facilities WHY ?

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

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Hi Davie

Sorry if I am confusing you but its the 2 hours on lib site

If the proposed time of lib is 10 am transporters will be on site at 8am if the weather is not suitable they will sit there to the weather is with no facilities WHY ?

Cheers

Homer 49

 

Homer im going to let you of the hook here, surely the trick is to locate Lib sites with facilities for the convoyer and drivers convenience, where the transporter can also be parked up for 2 hours allowing the birds to be watered before they are liberated,you say the 2 hour sitting rule should be deleted, what is going to replace it ????< this looks as if you are suggesting that for races under 150 miles the birds should be released asap after arrival on site without getting a drink.What this has got to do with race controller flexibility i dont know,as far as im concerned whether the birds are sitting at the local cafe / truck stop or racing from 60 to 600 mls then they should be given the opportunity to drink before they are liberated, the birds should always come first.

cheers

Davie

 

 

 

    

 

 

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i think the snfc should  apply, and join  the lanarkshire,  and go with our new  haulage ;)  transporter, with all the opens,  available and duplications,  and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09  could be a good year  all we need is a few drivers,  for  transporters . :o;) 8) :D

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i think the snfc should  apply, and join  the lanarkshire,  and go with our new  haulage ;)  transporter, with all the opens,  available and duplications,  and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09  could be a good year  all we need is a few drivers,  for  transporters . :o;) 8) :D

 

there you go Delboy,(ok)

Guest redwhiteblue
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i think the snfc should  apply, and join  the lanarkshire,  and go with our new  haulage ;)  transporter, with all the opens,  available and duplications,  and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09  could be a good year  all we need is a few drivers,  for  transporters . :o;) 8) :D

 

Yes bigda we could all be smiling in 09 can we please have your conveyor jittery jim we could have a st boswells (newbury) kelso (eastbourne) towlaw falaise rippon (alecon) and wakefield tourres

Guest redwhiteblue
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i think the snfc should  apply, and join  the lanarkshire,  and go with our new  haulage ;)  transporter, with all the opens,  available and duplications,  and all the distance men smiling from ear to ear 09  could be a good year  all we need is a few drivers,  for  transporters . :o;) 8) :D

 

Yes bigda we could all be smiling in 09 can we please have your conveyor jittery jim we could have a st boswells (newbury) kelso (eastbourne) towlaw falaise rippon (alecon) and wakefield tourres

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why not, with the lanarkshire sorry snfc agm  tomorrow anythings possable, we might end up with  one sprint open,  and it been duplacated, just to keep the sprint  boys happy, ;)

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Homer im going to let you of the hook here, surely the trick is to locate Lib sites with facilities for the convoyer and drivers convenience, where the transporter can also be parked up for 2 hours allowing the birds to be watered before they are liberated,you say the 2 hour sitting rule should be deleted, what is going to replace it ????< this looks as if you are suggesting that for races under 150 miles the birds should be released asap after arrival on site without getting a drink.What this has got to do with race controller flexibility i dont know,as far as im concerned whether the birds are sitting at the local cafe / truck stop or racing from 60 to 600 mls then they should be given the opportunity to drink before they are liberated, the birds should always come first.

cheers

Davie

 

 

 

Hi Davie

Have a go yourself   www.rpra.org/RacingSupport/UKLiberationSites   lots of luck and Paul Daniels you ain't

Personally I don't have a problem with the transporters sitting as close as possible to lib site with WATER in front of the birds and facilities for drivers

then moving to lib site for release

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

 

    

 

 

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Neither do i homer, as long as this is what happens !!!. Going back to your first post on this subject, it was you who proposed that the 2 hour sitting time rule before lib should be deleted, ive asked you a number of times what you think should take its place but i have not as yet received an answer.

Davie

 

 

Guest Gareth Rankin
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some members would just love that Jade,

 

18/4 Kelso

25/4 Otterburn

2/5 Hexham

9/5 Ripon

16/5 Wakefield

23/5 Newark

30/5 Leicester

Rest of the old bird season will be determined once the SNFC confirms their race programme.

 

Young birds

 

25/7 Kelso

1/8 Kelso

8/8 Otterburn

15/8 Hexham

22/8 Wetherby

29/8 Otterburn ***

Posted
some members would just love that Jade,

 

18/4 Kelso

25/4 Otterburn

2/5 Hexham

9/5 Ripon

16/5 Wakefield

23/5 Newark

30/5 Leicester

Rest of the old bird season will be determined once the SNFC confirms their race programme.

 

Young birds

 

25/7 Kelso

1/8 Kelso

8/8 Otterburn

15/8 Hexham

22/8 Wetherby

29/8 Otterburn ***

 

Good programme, I heard if they dont get a Wetherby with the ybs, then they will use the last Otterburn to go to Wetherby.Good thinking ;)

 

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lanarkshire now  exposed,  cant  go  the distance without  the national, what about the guys who are not members of the national,  again this  is not in the interest of the lanarshire fed, regarding duplication, it still has an adverse  effect on moneys  available to pay out on pool money  as there is only a limited  amount of money about at best  and now,  it will leave it  short in total,  and cant see the pools last any more than 20th position in opens and  sections

but not to bothered about the effect it has on  the national in general, should there be a big  turn out of pigeons from the entrants  from lanarkshire and the other  clubs  will there be enough  cover  for transport as at present no one knows the total amount of entrants for any one  combined race and woulden"t  like to be keept waiting till after dark,  on  duplacated races  :)

Guest Gareth Rankin
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Bigda

 

Regarding your first comment on the pools, the question was asked today - did the fed pools suffer in Falaise when the members duplicated their pigeons, to which the fed secretary replied no they were at levels of the year before.

 

cheers

Gareth

 

 

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lanarkshire now  exposed,  cant  go  the distance without  the national, what about the guys who are not members of the national,  again this  is not in the interest of the lanarshire fed, regarding duplication, it still has an adverse  effect on moneys  available to pay out on pool money  as there is only a limited  amount of money about at best  and now,  it will leave it  short in total,  and cant see the pools last any more than 20th position in opens and  sections

but not to bothered about the effect it has on  the national in general, should there be a big  turn out of pigeons from the entrants  from lanarkshire and the other  clubs  will there be enough  cover  for transport as at present no one knows the total amount of entrants for any one  combined race and woulden"t  like to be keept waiting till after dark,  on  duplacated races  :)

Bigda you have got to look at the big picture,Fed secretary also reported today that by going with the SNFC to Falaise in 2008 that we turned round a one thousand loss in 2007 to two thousand pound profit in 2008, a gain of three grand which is great business when you consider that we are going to need every penny we can muster when it comes to buying new transporters, if we go with the National 3 times in a season this could amount to a gain of around 10 grand in one year. Personally im delighted with the race programme, Gareth you forgot to mention that we also decided that we would now be flying the east route for the the next 3 years which is even better news.

Davie

 

 

Posted

Ist Class meeting yesterday with spirits were very.The Special Dupilcation Race for Yearlings wil be Leicester 30th May and Wetherby 22nd August for the young birds and the money regardless of where we race from that day will be paid out.There will also be a couple of comeback races in between the National Races which looks good for 2009. :) :) :)

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Bigda

 

Regarding your first comment on the pools, the question was asked today - did the fed pools suffer in Falaise when the members duplicated their pigeons, to which the fed secretary replied no they were at levels of the year before.

 

cheers

Gareth               gareth  has the  fed, not enough money to put  down  a deposit on a geraldy just now,  i see us in three years becoming smaller in strength and in numbers  and still no sign of a new transporter  and as far as losses are concerned thats  neither here or there  if we break  even  per year thats  fine,  but every year  we are at a stand still  there is"ent going to be a geraldy for our fed as  we have to Manny birds and the 1  geraldy  cant ferry all our birds    at the moment,  and no way  is the fed is  going to by two of them  so  i say the dream  has ended till  we lose members or birds sad as it is  the fanciers should be told the truth of the matter now, as to find out  latter :D:o :'( :'( so start using up  the funds that we have in the bank on reduction  birdage and the likes   :D >:(

 

 

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