chichichi Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 van reets,, every time,, upto 350 miles,, dobeleer as everyone in belgium flys all types of birds,, they get new birds in each year,, then when they win they become their name,, good pigeons + good fancier = winning bloodlines.. you must remember you can buy the birds,,but you can't buy the fancier.. best of luck ant
Guest TIMBARRA LOFTS Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 A&R Tubey and another ;) LOL have a good season C.
Merlin Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 strains/family names don't mean a thing, it all down to the fancier's who race them, whatever strain/family a top fancier fly's they'll be the best birds in the area. Got to agree with above,and all things being equal,a good loft location is also an added bonus,especially in the sprint type racing.
T_T Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 have a good season C. Hope so Spencer, nice to see you knocking about again.
Guest TIMBARRA LOFTS Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 i always knocking my friend, you look after those birds .
pigeonpete Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 you also need the man, you could give me the best rdd, but i wouldnt beat the best round here with there experience and established teams, not knocking his birds b4 anyone thinks i am, so just bear that in mind when buying anyones birds!
gangster Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 pete surely that the idea to aim to beat the top guys in your area an incentive 2 try harder regardless of whose birds you fly.....
pigeonpete Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 pete surely that the idea to aim to beat the top guys in your area an incentive 2 try harder regardless of whose birds you fly..... sorry mick, it wasnt worded to great, yeah i do try, and i know the best birds will help you long your way, but i jusyt dont have the time to out the effort in every week, im just happy to race, but i will try harder just for you mick :-)
peterpau Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 you also need the man, you could give me the best rdd, but i wouldnt beat the best round here with there experience and established teams, not knocking his birds b4 anyone thinks i am, so just bear that in mind when buying anyones birds! Oh how I agree with this. Give me your best sprinters and I will lose most, but I bet I can get some at 500 mile +
swilcox Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 The Frans Zwols Janssens i have in my opinion are tha fastest pigeons i have ever known and they will take off as you just cant stop these pigeons winning. Frans has fantastic results as does the fanciers who have had them from him in the UK and Holland. The base of these birds are the Harm Vredeveld love Pair of Boy and Queen which are mostly Camphuis based janssen. Frans Ace pigeon from last year Amor scored 1st from 19,000b and then 2nd from 16,000b. He is some pigeon and there is only 1 son from it in the UK and he is sat his first pair of babies
swilcox Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 just to add only a handfull of these have been over the channel, say 6 and already they have won 1st Open Combine Faliase and 2nd and 16th Open CSCFC. So they may fly on with a bit of luck. Stu
Guest Owen Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 I my case I am lucky enough to own grizzles and whites that win regularly. They are basically of Bussaert origin. Now they are mine because of my habbit of mating winners to winners regardless of breed.
gangster Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 The Frans Zwols Janssens i have in my opinion are tha fastest pigeons i have ever known and they will take off as you just cant stop these pigeons winning. Frans has fantastic results as does the fanciers who have had them from him in the UK and Holland. The base of these birds are the Harm Vredeveld love Pair of Boy and Queen which are mostly Camphuis based janssen. Frans Ace pigeon from last year Amor scored 1st from 19,000b and then 2nd from 16,000b. He is some pigeon and there is only 1 son from it in the UK and he is sat his first pair of babies ive seen his results am i right in assuming stu that he only keeps a small amount of birds and flys against the big boys winning more than his fair share ...mick
swilcox Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 He races a reasonable team gangster but nothing like Koopman and Vredeveld and he gives them a run for there money.
ribble Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 Not sure who has the best, but i do know of a few overrated ones. LOL!!
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