Kirkpatricks

[Guest monkeynuts71]

Having recently started a thread on krauths im looking at who keeps kirkpatricks? Im restarting with pigeons and I like my old strains. And wondered if anybody still keeps them and how they are perfoming? I was lucky enough to be in a club with the late great Tim Edwards who kept them and did very very well with them. I was told about an advert for the krauths by john davies who always  starts with "due to persistent peregrine attacks". i see he advertises " Wally pope black krauths" but he also advertises "Wally pope Kirkpatricks" could i ask who wally pope is? Many thanks

[OLDYELLOW]

i have kirkpatricks had them since 1992/93 i bought mine from Louella and spent alot of money obtaining these and whittled them down into a good performing family i bred several good birds which won me the combined adverage the first year i flew widowhood and highest prize winner in my club the second year they won the channel adverages in my club also highest prize winner i mised out of the combined adverages as didnt sent to last yb race , then i had personal problems and gave my birds to two friends one who was on private land and my best friend who i have known for many years called Kirky on here , after 2 weeks my mate who had my birds on private land asked me to look after his birds ( most were mine ) to cut the story short i ended up with my birds back on the private land , kirky took most of the key kirkpatricks and eventualy i ended with them back , two lines that i favour are the Dusty line 1st club 1st section 6th Fed Clermont 360 miles and other cards , and 'Old Yellow' he was raced every week took card from 3 out of 4 channel races and 4th Wansted flats he was 2nd Bourge 512 miles as a yearling and as a 2 year old he was the only bird on the day in club . These birds have won on the south road for me and on the north road for kirky , kirky had gave his good friend Norman Watson of Bridlington some kirkpatricks loan of birds some gifted and in turn young birds from these ended up in Scotland at the lofts of John Dumigan and Alec Sharpe who fly in the Ayrshire North road , Alec sharpe on his first race was 3rd 4th 6th fed , this guy only had 3 thimbles and he continued this patern till his club ran out of birds . My Kirkpatricks and other birds are on my photobucket Kirky may want to add his performances to this thread perhaps the breeder buyers of Shaun Morris and the clermont hen he bred for shaun

  Wally Pope , this guy has been mentioned on the site before i believe he bought quite a few of Les Selways grooters most of these been yellow and chocolates , but also had Kirkpatricks and Van Hees  ill add a link to the thread when i find it

[kirky]

as oldyellow has said above i got all his stock birds bar one or two when he had to finish racing, 14 pairs, thay bred winners from the first nest i told oldyellow if he started up again i would let him have birds back this happend the following year and as i was moving house i gave him the pick of the stock birds, the birds i bred have won north and south, sean morris of scarborough with a breeder/buyer sent yb to maidstone 200 miles and won the following week no training went to perth north 200 miles was 2nd club 1st breeder/buyer, same hen won 2 clermonts as yearling he turned down a large offer for her last season, i still have the pair that bred her, fancier in scotland took 1st 2nd 3rd club 5th 6ht 7th fed, at billingham ybs took 1st 2nd 3rd club maidsone national, thay have done well for everyone thats had them, my own results for ybs 08 only due to house move, raced 28 each week, 14 birds won 20 cards between them, so 50% of team scored, thay win short/long easy or hard races, i sent 6 to a hard 200miler got all 6 won race buy half an hour, other lofts had 8 form 46 2 from 32 thay dont let you down on hard days thay would fly through a brick wall, i have all the origional pedigrees that oldyellow bought from louella he had son and daughters of the best,ch worley bird, gold finger, pot of gold, stranraer simon, stan the man,the nevers hen,pure gold ect, these were not cheap, every year i buy something in to fly against them but very few come close to betting them, cant thank oldyellow enough and he knows i will always return a favour.

[OLDYELLOW]

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1223320725/s-3/highlight-Wally+pope/#num3

[mac1]

why do louella not do them in the kits of six,you never see them in the bhw :-/

[gooner]

probably because they are not the in thing any more, there is a guy in cambridge who regularly advertises kirkpatricks but i cant think of his name at present

[OLDYELLOW]

when i got my originals i was paying from £120 to £60 each killed many , but they sell as pretty im sure they still sell kits   there pushing the newer strains as can get more money for the in fashon ones

[harky]

probably because they are not the in thing any more, there is a guy in cambridge who regularly advertises kirkpatricks but i cant think of his name at present

 

IS IT GEORGE DAWS  :-/ :-/ :-/

[p charlton]

probably because they are not the in thing any more, there is a guy in cambridge who regularly advertises kirkpatricks but i cant think of his name at present

i had 6 of him in 1993 3 hit the wires in a bad toss i got a pair of them they both won and breed winers

 

[Guest cloudview]

was it richard howey

[p charlton]

they were a very good price i think they were £70 for 6 even years later they were the same price

[kirky]

i will be selling kits of six for £100 plus carridge or come and pick your own.

[BLACK W F]

the best kirkpatricks  i ever had where from Perks bros of Penkridge  Stafford  do not know if they still have them

cheers Alan

[p charlton]

a bloke around the warrington area had some they were very close to the old lines i dont think he raced them when we went it looked liked he never lived in the house but the pigeons did lol

[Guest]

i will be selling kits of six for £100 plus carridge or come and pick your own.

;)i may take some in 2010 ,they sound ideal birds for future water races .                              andy.

 

 

[hotrod]

 

IS IT GEORGE DAWS  :-/ :-/ :-/

i think his name is spelt g. dawes, i bought birds from his dad 1979 g.w.dawes of leigh cracking birds won lots for me in fact in 1981 i bred 24 young birds most dawes or crossed 21 won races over the years some won in excess of £1000 in pool & prize money , i think there will be some out there that do still win at all levels

 

 

[cowman]

why do louella not do them in the kits of six,you never see them in the bhw :-/

 

i did contact louella about their kirkpatricks they will be avalible around april time from what i was told .

[Guest IB]

 

i did contact louella about their kirkpatricks they will be avalible around april time from what i was told .

 

They also sell them in individual Lots of around 20 birds from September onwards.

 

Doubt they can be called Kirkpatricks after all this time tho. I seem to remember seeing they had other stuff crossed thro them.

[OLDYELLOW]

 

They also sell them in individual Lots of around 20 birds from September onwards.

 

Doubt they can be called Kirkpatricks after all this time tho. I seem to remember seeing they had other stuff crossed thro them.

 

i got mine before they crossed the Horseboroughs in shortly after

[kirky]

 

i got mine before they crossed the Horseboroughs in shortly after

ya mark just been looking at pedigrees all 100% kirkpatrick then and he was still buying them in thurso and lerwick winners also the nevers hen.

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

i had a pair of nest mates out of fechan king / queen they were useless

[Roland]

Think at days' end, they are still pigeons. OK cultivated and  groomed to a family. But what really gets me is the 'Modern Strains' etc. and saying as 'Was ok then! But now you need...' etc. Well those you need now, wer bred and cultivated from the very strains that you are supposedly not needing now! :-/ :-/ :o

[Guest monkeynuts71]

i tried louella but was told they didnt have any forsale at present and didnt couldnt tell me when they would be available. but im trying to avoid buying from louella. ive been told to buy from winning lofts not birds that are from generations of stockbirds. im looking at breaking my duck and win a race hoping quite quickly well in the first couple of years but thats probably going to be my failure rather than the birds,and clock a bird from the national flying club. Funny that even tho my loft has still not arrived yet because of the snow . I have bought a couple of van reets so far and a pair of busschaers and been told by some fanciers they will breed me some but i want to have some real distance birds. i would love to send to barcelona or similar but this dream is years off. could i ask what colours these are? im not a great lover of the colour yellow. but that aside do they race well?ive never seen a yellow being basketed. there used to be a fair share of grizzles in this family.but im slightly worried about hawks living in cornwall and getting contradicting opinions about what colours will be taken more often.

[OLDYELLOW]

my birds breed silvers , yellows , reds , grizzles and blue chequers i try and keep mine away from been white , whilst kirky likes the whites  

[kraftykev]

Hi all

 

i breed kirkpatricks. mine are from louella and mr G. Dawes of firs loft. I will be entering some in the RPRA oneloft race this year. I have two yellows for sale in the bhw this week, but they were snapped up straight away. I sell mine for £10 each no pedigree or £20.00 each with their 4 generation pedigree. I will be putting  more in the bhw from next month.

 

Kevin

 

Cambridgeshire