walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 SLINKY SLITHEROE DID YOU NOT HERE ABOUT THE 200,OOO SHEEP THAT WAS SOLD TO IRELAND LAST SUMMER I THINK IT WAS UP THIS WAY RIGHT ENOUGH HA HA HA ;D ;D ;D
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 SLINKY SLITHEROE DID YOU NOT HERE ABOUT THE 200,OOO SHEEP THAT WAS SOLD TO IRELAND LAST SUMMER I THINK IT WAS UP THIS WAY RIGHT ENOUGH HA HA HA ;D ;D ;DIAM SURE YOU COULD SHOW US A FEW MOVES WITH THE SHEEP. ;D ;D ;D
snfc Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 There is a loft in the west who has scored 23 out of the last 24 years in the Nationals, it certainly needs no excuses, and there are other lofts which have better records than some you have mentioned so get your facts right before making rash statements. well if this man can score 23 out of 24 there.s no excuse for the rest. there.s ur answer. poorer pigeon men now
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 the west has numbers going into it not like the north birds when they all on there own :P
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 well if this man can score 23 out of 24 there.s no excuse for the rest. there.s ur answer. poorer pigeon men nowDO MEAN WIN A DIPLOMA FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS?
walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 SLINKY SLITHEROE I WILL LEAVE THE SHEEP TO YOU I WILL STICK TO THE DOOS I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM AND I THINK YOU SHOULD TRY AND DO SOMETHING TO BETTER YOURSELF IN THE DOOS AS I KNOW YOUR WELL VERSED IN THE SHEEP BUSINESS BUT TRY FLYING THEM ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
dwh Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 There is a loft in the west who has scored 23 out of the last 24 years in the Nationals, it certainly needs no excuses, and there are other lofts which have better records than some you have mentioned so get your facts right before making rash statements. our club has'nt the best position inthe fed or wda yet we have multiple mal winners in the club thats down to good pigeon not loft position and we have bop problem
Rebus Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Only failed to win a diploma once in the last 24 years.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 prob both! a bit of a rash statement Phil when you probably don't know very many fanciers that fly in the west of Scotland one of them in particular was a very good friend of mine ,Norman Orr who a few years back was the only man in the west section to have timed in every SNFC race, from the shortest inland to the longest from Tours 600 plus miles [ maybe Gareth Rankin or somebody else will know the exact year ] but there are quite a few others that were not included in the first post who also fly in the west and they have had great results consistently as well.
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Posts: 470 SLINKY SLITHEROE I WILL LEAVE THE SHEEP TO YOU I WILL STICK TO THE DOOS I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM AND I THINK YOU SHOULD TRY AND DO SOMETHING TO BETTER YOURSELF IN THE DOOS AS I KNOW YOUR WELL VERSED IN THE SHEEP BUSINESS BUT TRY FLYING THEM THATS WHY HE BOUGHT THE WELLIES ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 a bit of a rash statement Phil when you probably don't know very many fanciers that fly in the west of Scotland one of them in particular was a very good friend of mine ,Norman Orr who a few years back was the only man in the west section to have timed in every SNFC race, from the shortest inland to the longest from Tours 600 plus miles but there are quite a few others that were not included in the first post who also fly in the west and they have had great results Norman had a few in the results this year.. if memory serves right he scored from Alencon and had 2 in the result from Andrezel.. bout 570 miles to him..
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Norman had a few in the results this year.. if memory serves right he scored from Alencon and had 2 in the result from Andrezel.. bout 570 miles to him.. Yes he did have a few good results again this year, I am very happy that I have a couple of pairs of his birds at stock which were off his best as at the time I did quite a few favors for him and he re paid me with some great birds
walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Posts: 470 SLINKY SLITHEROE I WILL LEAVE THE SHEEP TO YOU I WILL STICK TO THE DOOS I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM AND I THINK YOU SHOULD TRY AND DO SOMETHING TO BETTER YOURSELF IN THE DOOS AS I KNOW YOUR WELL VERSED IN THE SHEEP BUSINESS BUT TRY FLYING THEM THATS WHY HE BOUGHT THE WELLIES ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BIG WELLIES ;D ;D ;D
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Quoted from BLACK W F Posts: 470 SLINKY SLITHEROE I WILL LEAVE THE SHEEP TO YOU I WILL STICK TO THE DOOS I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM AND I THINK YOU SHOULD TRY AND DO SOMETHING TO BETTER YOURSELF IN THE DOOS AS I KNOW YOUR WELL VERSED IN THE SHEEP BUSINESS BUT TRY FLYING THEM THATS WHY HE BOUGHT THE WELLIES BIG WELLIES BIG SHEEP NEEDS BIG WELLIES SAYS ITS EASYER THAN DOOS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
frank-123 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 i reckon the west will win a national 2010 been a few knocking at the door the last few years my father was brought up in the east when he moved to hamilton in 1972 he said it took him ten years to get a decent team that could compete in the west when he was in edinburgh he timed quite regular from the longer races
robbiedoo. Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 our club has'nt the best position inthe fed or wda yet we have multiple mal winners in the club thats down to good pigeon not loft position and we have bop problem the best post yet a man that sees it the way it is .you have either got it or youve not if you havent got it blame your loft location blame the bop why not look in the mirror and think why cant i get my doos from distance the answer will be right in front of you . this year my doos flew very well in the fed winning the fed averages also this year i sent doos to 3 channel races and never timed in .the reason being either the my doos cant do 600 mile or down to my man management of them for the long distance . my answer for not timing in not the doos but me for the way i raced them thinking i could put them every week and still get them from across the pond . and by the way i got a doo home from the 3 races but late which i was glad with and those same doos will go back across this year in a totaly different nest condition . i think when some guys go on about the west section they go on about the likes of elgin forres inverness but no you never hear them blame loft location or bop they just get on with what they enjoy and thats racing there doos . and by the way take a straight line from france to the west section then do the same for the north section and you west boys are hard done by dry your eyes
robbiedoo. Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 i reckon the west will win a national 2010 been a few knocking at the door the last few years my father was brought up in the east when he moved to hamilton in 1972 he said it took him ten years to get a decent team that could compete in the west when he was in edinburgh he timed quite regular from the longer races frank there was a fanceir that lived up here that could,nt fly a kite moved down to the south and won a national . :-/
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 well Robbie you called that one spot on theres some guys could not fly a kite on a windy day and blame everything for it but the real reason themselves well said from a true honest fancier calls it the way it is :P
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 the best post yet a man that sees it the way it is .you have either got it or youve not if you havent got it blame your loft location blame the bop why not look in the mirror and think why cant i get my doos from distance the answer will be right in front of you . this year my doos flew very well in the fed winning the fed averages also this year i sent doos to 3 channel races and never timed in .the reason being either the my doos cant do 600 mile or down to my man management of them for the long distance . my answer for not timing in not the doos but me for the way i raced them thinking i could put them every week and still get them from across the pond . and by the way i got a doo home from the 3 races but late which i was glad with and those same doos will go back across this year in a totaly different nest condition . i think when some guys go on about the west section they go on about the likes of elgin forres inverness but no you never hear them blame loft location or bop they just get on with what they enjoy and thats racing there doos . and by the way take a straight line from france to the west section then do the same for the north section and you west boys are hard done by dry your eyes I do agree with a lot of your points mate.. but hypothetically speaking in each of those channel races your birds could have been out in front.. and then hit a wire or snacthed with a BOP.. and your now putting the blame down on to either the birds or your mangement.. Thats a big factor now in the West.. the BOP situation is so bad.. that you can never really tell what's happening to the doos.. And i fear in a lot of cases.. fanciers are changing birds and systems too often, when in a lot of cases the blame might not have fell on the birds or managment.. just an opinion..
hotrod Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 the best question to ask is this HOW MANY BIRDS FROM TOP LOFTS IN THE EAST ARE WINNING AT NATIONAL LEVEL FOR TOP FLIERS IN THE WEST .
TREBLE D Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 upto 250mile wind and loft position play apart in the results i would say, but the further you go the more the pigeon and the man come into it and above 500mile only good doos and gud men will get them i think.
dwh Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 the best post yet a man that sees it the way it is .you have either got it or youve not if you havent got it blame your loft location blame the bop why not look in the mirror and think why cant i get my doos from distance the answer will be right in front of you . this year my doos flew very well in the fed winning the fed averages also this year i sent doos to 3 channel races and never timed in .the reason being either the my doos cant do 600 mile or down to my man management of them for the long distance . my answer for not timing in not the doos but me for the way i raced them thinking i could put them every week and still get them from across the pond . and by the way i got a doo home from the 3 races but late which i was glad with and those same doos will go back across this year in a totaly different nest condition . i think when some guys go on about the west section they go on about the likes of elgin forres inverness but no you never hear them blame loft location or bop they just get on with what they enjoy and thats racing there doos . and by the way take a straight line from france to the west section then do the same for the north section and you west boys are hard done by dry your eyes wel said robbie a man learns by his mistakes and i said and just proved a good pigeon man wil look to himself b4 he blames the birds how many of these men buy new stock every year ? they can't be all bad its common sense to me ifthey nit coming on your system CHANGE IT like we are all the est dave
Guest stevie-b Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 cullen scoring in the nationals wi john duthies doos and vice versa so stop all the nonsense there are good and bud in every sect o the nat
walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 HOTROD SURLY MOVING BIRDS SAY FROM EDINBURGH TO GLASGOW A FEW MILES ISNT GOING TO MAKE A BIRD NOT HOME AS YOU KNOW YOURSELF GET THE BIRDS YOU HAVE TO FLY INTO THAT AREA THE BOP IS NOT ON I HAD TO STOP TRAINING MY YOUNGSTERS THIS YEAR I HAD 17 LEFT OUT OF 34 BEFORE THE RACING STARTED BUT I STILL SENT THEM THAT I HAD LEFT TO 250 MILES BUT THE ONES WHAT IS LEFT WILL BE MORE WISER TO THE BOP AS YEARLINGS THE PROBLEM WITH FANCIERS IS THERE NOT THRASHING THE SH-TE OUT OF THEM THE ONES THAT CANT TAKE IT BETTER WITHOUT THE ONES YOU HAVE LEFT WILL FLY INTO THE WEST SEC AND A CHEAPER FOOD BILL TO GO WITH IT GOOD FLYING THIS YEAR[ ;D ;D ;D SNFC]
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