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[hotrod]

 

Think it was mate they broke away and formed CSFC because they did not like the midday liberations that the NFC were having.Hence the motto AT DAWN WE GO.

 

i agree with the north boys vincent ,i would love for the birds to be away at 04:30 or 05:00 and a light north wind PERFECT  imo. (no west or east in the wind just north) . then alls fair . roll on 2010

[walterbmasson]

 

Is it the CSFC that has that moto Hotrod,think they broke away from the NFC and formed but i may be wrong. :-/ :-/

 

EARLY BIRD CATCHES THE WORM  A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH 20 IT ISNA HAME  GETTING THEM UP IS BETTER THAN THINKING ABOUT IT BUT ALWAYS BE READY TO GO IF CONDITIONS ARE GOOD THE BIRDS TELLS YOU WHEN THEY WANT TO GO ANYBOADY THATS WATCHED A LIB WILL TELL YOU THEY KNOW WHATS IT CALLED INSTENICT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[alec guinness]

 

Think it was mate they broke away and formed CSFC because they did not like the midday liberations that the NFC were having.Hence the motto AT DAWN WE GO.

 

central southern classic was formed in the late 70s,this was long before the national flying club adopted the mid day libs.

[VMS]

 

i agree with the north boys vincent ,i would love for the birds to be away at 04:30 or 05:00 and a light north wind PERFECT  imo. (no west or east in the wind just north) . then alls fair . roll on 2010

 

Totally agree mate,but since i have been racing cant remember any liberation's of that time.Mist in the channel a big problem i think,but everyone should have a fair crack of the whip so am quite happy with midday liberation's.Roll on the racing.

[Guest stb-]

 

Totally agree mate,but since i have been racing cant remember any liberation's of that time.Mist in the channel a big problem i think,but everyone should have a fair crack of the whip so am quite happy with midday liberation's.Roll on the racing.

 

YOU WILL STILL GET BIRDS IN MID DAY LIBS VINCENT

[VMS]

 

central southern classic was formed in the late 70s,this was long before the national flying club adopted the mid day libs.

 

As i said mate i could be wrong,but in saying that, i still think that was why that club was formed. ;D ;D

[Guest frank dooman]

 

EARLY BIRD CATCHES THE WORM  A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH 20 IT ISNA HAME  GETTING THEM UP IS BETTER THAN THINKING ABOUT IT BUT ALWAYS BE READY TO GO IF CONDITIONS ARE GOOD THE BIRDS TELLS YOU WHEN THEY WANT TO GO ANYBOADY THATS WATCHED A LIB WILL TELL YOU THEY KNOW WHATS IT CALLED INSTENICT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

walter i think any fancier that has a brain would agree with you to get them up before or at 5am but as i said before there is one load of work regarding getting weather on route to get and most of that has to be done after 1st light the nat race controllers are under great pressure to get it right so i cant blame them for double checking every thing before making the finnal dec. that all takes time if he libed at 4-30 and had a good 1 he will be a hero if he gets a sticky race people will be asking for his head on a plate so who is going to take thease jobs with added presure the snfc lost a good controller last year for less!!!!

[dal2]

 

i agree with the north boys vincent ,i would love for the birds to be away at 04:30 or 05:00 and a light north wind PERFECT  imo. (no west or east in the wind just north) . then alls fair . roll on 2010

 

Quite agree. Would also like rather more central lib points in France than we will have this year?

 

[hotrod]

 

Totally agree mate,but since i have been racing cant remember any liberation's of that time.Mist in the channel a big problem i think,but everyone should have a fair crack of the whip so am quite happy with midday liberation's.Roll on the racing.

 

WE ARE NOT BAD MATE  the snrpc has no north sect boys to worry about ,the furthest is the dundee boys , i know i wouldnt like to have no chance of day birds every race .

[VMS]

 

YOU WILL STILL GET BIRDS IN MID DAY LIBS VINCENT

 

They would have to be going some from 500/600 miles all the same.

[hotrod]

 

Quite agree. Would also like rather more central lib points in France than we will have this year?

 

we cant be that far off dal 2 as the snfc are following us to a  more eastern line ,well if the races are passed at their agm, i wouldny mind a race from belgium but hey thats jmo

[VMS]

 

WE ARE NOT BAD MATE  the snrpc has no north sect boys to worry about ,the furthest is the dundee boys , i know i wouldnt like to have no chance of day birds every race .

 

Aye but them are more than welcome mate. ;D ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

the normal reports  from the national is, fog    in the channel,    where the liberation is some three- 4 hours  hours away  from the channel,  at the same time.  there are 5 or six libs already gone flying in to  the UK  at the same  site   looks like the  national  will only go when the channel is clear,  but  not to bothered if it  closes 4 hours after liberation, waiting on it to  clear can be to late,    when others that  are over the water every week  know the   weather signs and when to go  

[Guest stb-]

 

They would have to be going some from 500/600 miles all the same.

 

VINCENT  some in south will be just over 400 mls from some races   12pm lib  40mph

 

400mls 10pm no probs  and probably faster than that . but you wouldnt get many much further up m8

[dal2]

 

we cant be that far off dal 2 as the snfc are following us to a  more eastern line ,well if the races are passed at their agm, i wouldny mind a race from belgium but hey thats jmo

 

Was more in agreement of the lib times than the rest. I,m in the south and although we would race from any point just to say we were scottish national flyers I just think that, purely selfish reasons or not, that the further east we go the less chance of winning that ultimate goal. Although possible ( RSR Rome Annan from Reims)

 

 

[hotrod]

the normal reports  from the national is, fog    in the channel,    where the liberation is some three- 4 hours  hours away  from the channel,  at the same time.  there are 5 or six libs already gone flying in to  the UK  at the same  site   looks like the  national  will only go when the channel is clear,  but  not to bothered if it  closes 4 hours after liberation, waiting on it to  clear can be to late,    when others that  are over the water every week  know the   weather signs and when to go  

 

possibly right danny ,but have a look at the snfc's race from ypres last year and the report of fog between belgium and england ,the birds just flew over it and they had a great race , our main race is reims prob about 3hours to the coast  ( lib at say 5 am ) so by 8 am the early morn fog should have lifted especially at that time of year with a strong sun

[hotrod]

 

Was more in agreement of the lib times than the rest. I,m in the south and although we would race from any point just to say we were scottish national flyers I just think that, purely selfish reasons or not, that the further east we go the less chance of winning that ultimate goal. Although possible ( RSR Rome Annan from Reims)

 

 

i was told by my good friend peter virtue for years (stop going on about where you stay ,he said if your birds are good enough they will win ) how right he was,  so now i look at it in a different way, if i dont get a good one then ive not done my job simple as that , not the birds ,not the weather ,not the lib times ,and not the race point .

[Guest bigda]

 

possibly right danny ,but have a look at the snfc's race from ypres last year and the report of fog between belgium and england ,the birds just flew over it and they had a great race , our main race is reims prob about 3hours to the coast  ( lib at say 5 am ) so by 8 am the early morn fog should have lifted especially at that time of year with a strong sun

 

correct,  and when the English lads who are over there every week  club racing go  up early and the welsh  they know  the score as  do the unc  and for by  as you say the birds are fresh  time they come to channel

[walterbmasson]

 

FRANK DOOMAN WELL THE BRAIN BIT IS SORTED OUT you must agree there is some races you get perfect conditions but the doos still not libed why and this all comes down to channel but when you get that hot days channel clear its better for the birds to be in the air as there burning up in that lorry and could be up over the channel before it gets to hot but in 40 years not one good liberation day i rest my case   :o :o

[Guest stb-]

FRANK DOOMAN WELL THE BRAIN BIT IS SORTED OUT you must agree there is some races you get perfect conditions but the doos still not libed why and this all comes down to channel but when you get that hot days channel clear its better for the birds to be in the air as there burning up in that lorry and could be up over the channel before it gets to hot but in 40 years not one good liberation day i rest my case   :o :o

 

WALTER WHOT TIME WERE THEY LIBBED WHEN YOU WON M8  

[rembrant2coo]

 

WE ARE NOT BAD MATE  the snrpc has no north sect boys to worry about ,the furthest is the dundee boys , i know i wouldnt like to have no chance of day birds every race .

 

There is membersnorth of dundee stuart theres a few in forfar and montrose but theres one in inverbervie just a couple miles short of Stonehaven

[hotrod]

 

There is membersnorth of dundee stuart theres a few in forfar and montrose but theres one in inverbervie just a couple miles short of Stonehaven

 

didnt know that harry sorry ,so i will take back that old post then  ;D

[dal2]

 

i was told by my good friend peter virtue for years (stop going on about where you stay ,he said if your birds are good enough they will win ) how right he was,  so now i look at it in a different way, if i dont get a good one then ive not done my job simple as that , not the birds ,not the weather ,not the lib times ,and not the race point .

 

Quite agree Hotrod. Thats why the race controller will have a big say and why us the fancier will just hope that the birds we have sent will be able to cope with lib times and weather be it good or bad. The point I was trying to make was that each fancier would like the scales to be tipped as much as poss in their favour. But there is nowt level in pigeon racing and nobody will completly agree on anything. Just love this sport.

 

[hotrod]

 

Quite agree Hotrod. Thats why the race controller will have a big say and why us the fancier will just hope that the birds we have sent will be able to cope with lib times and weather be it good or bad. The point I was trying to make was that each fancier would like the scales to be tipped as much as poss in their favour. But there is nowt level in pigeon racing and nobody will completly agree on anything. Just love this sport.

 

if only we could get a 500mile race from the west, one from the south ,and one from the east, and one from the north then  every member would have a shout.

[Guest frank dooman]

FRANK DOOMAN WELL THE BRAIN BIT IS SORTED OUT you must agree there is some races you get perfect conditions but the doos still not libed why and this all comes down to channel but when you get that hot days channel clear its better for the birds to be in the air as there burning up in that lorry and could be up over the channel before it gets to hot but in 40 years not one good liberation day i rest my case   :o :o

 

walter i agree with most of what you say but it doesnt matter what any one says you just want them up and allthough you say not at any cost i doubt that you would accept any reason for a lib at say 6am, all iam saying its easy for us simple fanciers that only want a race to say get them up but its not us that will take the flack when if it goes wrong the controller knows that they birds in that basket are every ones best years of hard work thats a very hard thing to have on your conscience if it goes wrong unless you have done that job fanciers dont realise that they do care very much and they go out there way to get it right i know its frustrating for us but thats life