Garlic... opinions..??

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Ive never really used garlic so dont know too much about it..

 

I was reading a few of the other threads.. and quite a number of fanciers say that if you boil the garlic it loses its nutritional value..

 

I rememeber tho when i was very young reading 'Novices Social Circle' by Steve Spinks in the BHW.. and he said that he would boil up garlic and give it to the doos as a wormer, as it would coat the pigeons insides preventing the worms from being able to cling on to the interior walls..

 

Whats everyones thoughts on this..??

[Chris Little]

Used it for years mate, excellent stuff but never boiled.

[Beanz]

You don't boil it, put it in a bottle and boil the water let it go off boil and then add the water then put in drinker and top up, some just put garlic cloves in the drinker and leave them in just changing every so often.

 

 

 

                                                                Paul

[Dod]

what about the powdered garlic what do you do to stick it to the food

[just ask me]

personally would rather use the natural stuff i would imagine but no proof to hand that some of the helpful properties are removed though the process of turning it into powder

[OLDYELLOW]

personally would rather use the natural stuff i would imagine but no proof to hand that some of the helpful properties are removed though the process of turning it into powder

 

beat me to it , i doubt much of the alycin if any would survive after been boiled or been processed by drying and grounding into a powder  

[chickadee]

I have cloves of garlic in a water container and left overnight, once they have lost their strength I put them in the bath water. Alternatively I add granules to the food

[greenlands]

Reading up on garlic some time ago,(don't ask me where) Alycin is lost as soon as it comes into contact with fresh air.I always crush mine with the crusher submerged . I make up a gallon the night before I use it.

Lindsay.

[chickadee]

Do you not think that you can give your birds too much garlic? I don't mean a diluted amount regularly but overdose them by making it too strong too often. I know it can affect humans that take too much :-/

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

My original point was tho.. if bolied would it act as a wormer..?? Or not.. and have lost any additional nutrional value as it had been boiled..??

[OLDYELLOW]

I only give garlic for 3 days a week , the French eat it all the time , so i can see it must effect humans badly must make humans ignorant  :X

[robbiedoo.]

dont use it dont know why .

[OLDYELLOW]

My original point was tho.. if bolied would it act as a wormer..?? Or not.. and have lost any additional nutrional value as it had been boiled..??

 

i doubt it would act as a wormer as surely most wormers would contain it , and  processing does destroy its valuable nutrients

[Guest IB]

My original point was tho.. if bolied would it act as a wormer..?? Or not.. and have lost any additional nutrional value as it had been boiled..??

 

Two points. (1) think medicinal rather than nutritional   cooked garlic is added to food to flavour it; raw garlic  is used as a medicinal herb. From memory, the World Health Organisation confirmed that it is effective in humans against ascarids - round worms;

 

(2) A garlic bulb contains 'nothing' until it is 'attacked'. It then undergoes chemical changes which form illicin, the main antimicrobial defence. Illicin is very volatile, and almost immediately starts to break down into other sub-components (chemicals). Without illicin, you have nothing. Heating, far less boiling destroys illicin. Heat it and you end up with nothing useful, except for adding to the cooking pot that is  

 

 

[Guest Hjaltland]

You don't boil it, put it in a bottle and boil the water let it go off boil and then add the water then put in drinker and top up, some just put garlic cloves in the drinker and leave them in just changing every so often                                                               Paul

 

What is the point of boiling the water in the first place?

[Babybird]

I have cloves of garlic in a water container and left overnight, once they have lost their strength I put them in the bath water. Alternatively I add granules to the food

 

I find like most things if you make it too strong they just wont drink it :-/

[nogin]

i've only got a small team of bird's, so once a fortnight i chop the garlic into bit's the size of a bean and pop it down there neck  ;D simples  8)

[rachidwestlife]

Hey mate, I advice instead of using garlic as it is, use Garlic oil, you can find it in pharmacies, it is powerful,