Advice on going light please

[FoxesFan4Ever]

Hi,

I have a young bird who is very light. Also it sits on the floor and puffs its feathers up around it a lot. It will run from me when I go to pick it up but it is far too easy to catch on the floor.

I only have 1 loft and I am wondering whether he/she will affect the whole lot. I have put some Coxoid in the water yesterday so I hope that will do the trick.

Is there anything else I can do for it. Should I shut it in a box on its own out of the way?

It seems to have a little bit of go in it but nothing compared to how it should be. I got some new babies yesterday and I would hate to risk them for the sake of 1 sick bird but equally I don't want to have it necked if there is any chance that it can come back from this.

Thanks for any and all advice

 

Foxes Never Quit

[Guest]

Isolate it quick as, coxoid not the best for treatment just as a preventative. Treat all the rest with appertex or Baycox, and try cider vinegar or garlic in water couple times a week.

[blaz]

is it worth the risk of it infecting your other birds .you might be able to get int back by giving it a going light tablet .keep it away from all other birds. the best advice would be to kill it before you have other birds with the same symptoms . i found out years ago any bird like this does not amount to anything a good bird always stays healthy its self.this is just my opinion.its the weak link in the chain that stops the bike from racing and the same for your birds as the weak seem to pick up illnesses very easily.

[BLACK W F]

take it out the loft put it somewhere by its self   i would get some old hands going light treatment  tablets and give it them as dirrected  also treat the rest of team as precaution if timber floor after clean out get the blow torch out disenfect loft   and keep an eye on team if bird not showing signs of recovering dispose of it   hard enough to win with healthy birds never mind doctored

cheers Alan

[BLACK W F]

well if its made of crap stuff leave the blow torch out lol

[Tony C]

9/10 cases of going light end up with the pigeon dying a slow death. Remove it from the loft and if I were you I would get the pigeon tested asap.

I would suspect E-coli.

[thomasd]

give all your pigeons bayril 10% for 10 days thats what i was told just to make sure is the dropping ok or r they watery green if it does maybe young bird sickness ive only started but i was tolld to give them baytil

[retired]

give all your pigeons bayril 10% for 10 days thats what i was told just to make sure is the dropping ok or r they watery green if it does maybe young bird sickness ive only started but i was tolld to give them baytil

 

Thomas - My own personal view is that is suicide and would do the birds more bad than good (in the long term)

 

Not disrespect intended - JMO

 

 

[Guest TIMBARRA LOFTS]

I agree with vallance , thomas who tells you this stuff??  

 

[b.massey]

Why is Batryl always given as a no no?? I have been told same as Thomas and to use Batryl when the time is needed? I have all kinds of medicine in my cupboard but I get told to use Batryl by most of the older fanciers. Is it a bad thing?

[thunderboult]

i had a disagreement with a fancier that was using baytril a couple of years ago and he's had sickness problems last season. i'd remove the youngster and keep an eye on the other's , giving gem on the corn with colostrum powder and aquaguard(gem) in the water.

[Guest strapper]

baytril is a last option as there is no stronger medication...if the bird is worth keeping then go along to a vet and have it examined..otherwise there are other options.

[retired]

Why is Batryl always given as a no no?? I have been told same as Thomas and to use Batryl when the time is needed? I have all kinds of medicine in my cupboard but I get told to use Batryl by most of the older fanciers. Is it a bad thing?

 

Brian as yet the problem Foxes has is undetermined and all we are doing is presuming.

 

I have baytril in my medicine cabinet but would i use it, welll yes as a last resort for a problem that couldnt be fixed by any other method. The first thing that needs doing is to determine without doubt what the problem is and look at treatment then.

 

Advising someone especially a new starter to grab the baytril at the first opportunity is crazy - What happens god forbid if Foxes gets another problem, say in 6 weeks (and as we know it can happen!) she doesnt know what the problem is again and as such goes back to the Baytril.

 

 

 

 

[b.massey]

I never recommended it to anyone. I have only asked as I have noticed some people dont like to use it but I have been advised by many to use it for a serious problem and if birds are dying or possibly going to die from the symptoms. I my self had a bad problem last season when my birds were going paralysed then dead within 12 hours. Treated with furosol (Think thats spelling) and thankfully the problem was gone within 2 days. Now to me the problem that foxes is talking about seems very bad ad birds going light and looking ill are the first symptoms of major problems. Thats why I asked the question "why not use batryl"... Was not recommending it but asking why not to use it when people buy it for bad cases in the bird team.

 

[The Navigator]

Funny thing is though Baytril is given to pigeons by many fanciers before injecting for paratyphoid.

[Guest strapper]

the best medication ive heard for going light is terrimycin...i believe its a sulphur based drug.

[Guest Hjaltland]

9/10 cases of going light end up with the pigeon dying a slow death. Remove it from the loft and if I were you I would get the pigeon tested asap.

I would suspect E-coli.

 

Absolutly... If its as bad as this as a yb what chance has it got. Find out what the problem is specifically before you blindly give any medicine. Best of luck ennyhoo.

[boxer]

dont mess about put it in the bin   :(

[FoxesFan4Ever]

Thanks for all your advice everybuddy.

 

I have taken the bird in question out of the loft and it is currently living in my kitchen in a basket.

 

The other birds all seem fine still although I will be keeping a close eye on them.

 

I will keep you informed cuz I knows you care.

 

Thanks again, back soon.

 

Foxes Never Quit

[Roland]

dont mess about put it in the bin   :(

About right... if the others are suffering, then as sure as hell it's constitution is crasse, Paper bag race only.... but doubtful. Never do any good as a racer - OK Highly unlikely. And not one any one wants to fill their loft with that kind of constitutions.

As for the silly remarks about Baytril... well too stupid in my opinion to even talk abot. Further, what happens when bird immune system laugh at Baytril  :-/ :-/ :-/

I believe that to many 'Ghost Birds' are being held together by such stuff.... No wonder when the wind blows at them they hide in churches and town centres!! :o

 

 

[aye ready]

Why is Batryl always given as a no no?? I have been told same as Thomas and to use Batryl when the time is needed? I have all kinds of medicine in my cupboard but I get told to use Batryl by most of the older fanciers. Is it a bad thing?

baytryl is made up of 2 poisons and if the precise dosage is not administered then you can seriously damage the birds to an extent that they will be no use for racing only can be kept as stokk pigeons if there good enough.Rod adams told me this

 

[Guest kev d]

About right... if the others are suffering, then as sure as hell it's constitution is crasse, Paper bag race only.... but doubtful. Never do any good as a racer - OK Highly unlikely. And not one any one wants to fill their loft with that kind of constitutions.

As for the silly remarks about Baytril... well too stupid in my opinion to even talk abot. Further, what happens when bird immune system laugh at Baytril  :-/ :-/ :-/

I believe that to many 'Ghost Birds' are being held together by such stuff.... No wonder when the wind blows at them they hide in churches and town centres!! :o

 

well said roland