THE MOULT

[greenlands]

Hi Pigeon man,Butter milk.I got two tubs yesterday at Morrisons @ 55p each.One tub to three tubs of water,or make it upto a litre,same thing.I always put it in there drinker so don't over fill as it settles out,ie.just give them enough to keep the going till the next time you change the water.No waste that way.

Lindsay

[Chris Little]

Some good posts here.

 

When do fanciers seperate their sexes as this accelerates the moult

[phillips]

all mine are seperated now

[ALF]

i got 4 bags of barley 2 bags of no 1 mix and a bag of moulting mix at the weekend this has been mixed with the feeding i had left over from racing and it should be enough for the next 7-8 weeks so they will be going through most of the moult on this with cod liver oil added twice a week and i may get some more butternilk out of asda for them aswell

[ALF]

forgot to add they have been seperated for a fortnight now

[Turk]

i feed the same food every day 365 days a year ,clean water,salt and vinegar in the bath every day .

[pigeonpete]

i feed the same food every day 365 days a year ,clean water,salt and vinegar in the bath every day .

 

salt and vinegar?? what benefit does this have please? and what quantities? just normal salt and malt vinegar?

 

genuine question, as never heard of using them at the same time, thanks

[Turk]

 

salt and vinegar?? what benefit does this have please? and what quantities? just normal salt and malt vinegar?

 

genuine question, as never heard of using them at the same time, thanks

 

 

i have just used it for years to make the birds keep clean,its just like bath salts but cheaper ,i do not measure the amount i just pour it in until i think there is enough in it,never harmed me pigeons.

[jimmy w]

50 beans 30 barley 10 weat 10 pigeon pellits cider vinigar twice a week garlic once and a wee sprinkle of lin seed and hemp every other day and lots of baths its like afeather carpet every morning u go in the dookit cod liver oil mixed through the feed twice aweek easy

[PIGEON_MAN]

Hi Pigeon man,Butter milk.I got two tubs yesterday at Morrisons @ 55p each.One tub to three tubs of water,or make it upto a litre,same thing.I always put it in there drinker so don't over fill as it settles out,ie.just give them enough to keep the going till the next time you change the water.No waste that way.

Lindsay

 

Any idea what it is that helps the moult in this product.

[greenlands]

 

Any idea what it is that helps the moult in this product.

To be honest mate,no idea at all,tried it for the first time last season and it worked ,possibly the acid content.Sounds good.

Lindsay

 

 

[wilkins]

i see at lot of you use cod liver oil which i used to but i was worried about it becoming rancid , do you make sure they clear every bit up or do you feed it in a different way

[Guest Davy Fleming]

Hi Wilkins, You are absolutely 100% correct as this does go rancid after a while and will cause all sorts of probs with bacteria. Never use it after  I found out about this as was always wondering how my birds were always getting bacteria problems when having them tested in fact my friend always said to me are you using hormoform or oil of any description  even feeding with pellets in it  or Gemthepax  and basically anything with oil  as he always knew by simply looking at the screen when he was testing them. After that I never did it again and have now just completed my best season flying in 35 years.

[andrecrock]

I bought a product from the local farm shop called POULTRY SPICE,It actually says to help birds over come the moult les stres full.It contains allot of vit and mins which cant all be found in corn.I have been using it for around 3 weeks with 2 baths a week and i have to say the birds seems happy.Ugly mind!!!!!

[ch pied]

Hi Wilkins, You are absolutely 100% correct as this does go rancid after a while and will cause all sorts of probs with bacteria. Never use it after  I found out about this as was always wondering how my birds were always getting bacteria problems when having them tested in fact my friend always said to me are you using hormoform or oil of any description  even feeding with pellets in it  or Gemthepax  and basically anything with oil  as he always knew by simply looking at the screen when he was testing them. After that I never did it again and have now just completed my best season flying in 35 years.

BREWERE'S yeast & the prob's that come with over use , thrush / candida

 

 

[Chris Little]

Our breeders are split up, the racers are still together sitting happily on pot eggs and will remain together till Christmas then seperated

[john@formula 1 lofts]

Our breeders are split up, the racers are still together sitting happily on pot eggs and will remain together till Christmas then seperated

 

Do you then repair them Chris or do you race them separated from then on

[Chris Little]

They are re-paired in March John.

 

Its all about delaying the moult as far as possible in terms of primary flights for the races in June / July

[greenlands]

i see at lot of you use cod liver oil which i used to but i was worried about it becoming rancid , do you make sure they clear every bit up or do you feed it in a different way

Use to have this problem when I bred Budgies so went onto a product called Scotts Emulsion,problem solved.

[greenlands]

Our breeders are split up, the racers are still together sitting happily on pot eggs and will remain together till Christmas then seperated

Haven't split mine for years ,usually do it about late Nov/early Dec.That's racers and stock.

 

 

[wilkins]

Hi Wilkins, You are absolutely 100% correct as this does go rancid after a while and will cause all sorts of probs with bacteria. Never use it after  I found out about this as was always wondering how my birds were always getting bacteria problems when having them tested in fact my friend always said to me are you using hormoform or oil of any description  even feeding with pellets in it  or Gemthepax  and basically anything with oil  as he always knew by simply looking at the screen when he was testing them. After that I never did it again and have now just completed my best season flying in 35 years.

 

thanks davey , i used to be a great one for oils bur not this year and i now feel the birds dont need them anyway, although i never thought about the pellets and i do use them

 

[wilkins]

does anyone use a berry or a fruit juice in the drinker, i read in jack adams book he used a little blackcurrent in the drinker to help with the plumage , bit like wild birds taking fruit