Food Values.

[greenlands]

Can pick the droppings of the perches in the loft at present.100% barley,any nutrition in that.The pigeons look like show birds.Click photo to enlarge.

[sammy]

Can pick the droppings of the perches in the loft at present.100% barley,any nutrition in that.The pigeons look like show birds.

 

quite sure chris gordon could answer that one greenlands

[OLDYELLOW]

 

naturaline also makes the droppings green - from the chlorophyll in the plant extracts in it

 

thanks for the chart - makes more interesting reading for those who appreciate it

 

 

 

mine were a nice green colour because i was feeding green peas but once they had all gone had to buy maples in ill have to get more drums to store corn in realy i could do with a corn store so can buy enough in to last , the naturaline probably also helped the colour but now more brown due to the maples , but still same firmness size and shape with a nice white cap   i dont use the naturaline as stated i use a capfull in every fresh drinker

[greenlands]

 

quite sure chris gordon could answer that one greenlands

 

Best food ever no matter the distance.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

im feeding mine 18% maples and rest in wheat , nothing wrong with your droppings greenland there always firmer with barley

[sammy]

 

Best food ever no matter the distance.

 

and according to the nutritional charts what value has it to racing pigeons ????

[REDCHEQHEN]

there always firmer with barley

 

 

now I've found barley gives my birds the runs - so I don't use it very often

 

[greenlands]

 

and according to the nutritional charts what value has it to racing pigeons ????

Put them in the basket and see.

 

 

[sammy]

green a white dropping probably means your feeding green peas  [/quote never heard or seen that before oldyellow give is a bit more detail as to why this happens  

 

 

[mark]

 

why do they make so many?

 

like i said before if you could only buy beans or barley that what you would feed if there ws no other food available.

[sammy]

Put them in the basket and see.

 

 

i know what yi mean greenlands but seems there are others on here that dont ,can someone who is an expert answer what NUTRITIONAL value has barley as feed got  for pigeons ,?

[OLDYELLOW]

http://www.squark.co.uk/pigeons.htm

look for Barley and follow the chart it gives the protein content and also on the lower chart vitamins where as most crops differ from year to year and location grown these are a guide to normal adverage content , as for green colouring in peas i think thats first year secondary education on plants life cycle obtaining energy from the sun and storing it as starch this starch is a green colouration also known as chlorophyll  i hope that answers your question if not the internet is a great tool  

[sammy]

http://www.squark.co.uk/pigeons.htm

look for Barley and follow the chart it gives the protein content and also on the lower chart vitamins where as most crops differ from year to year and location grown these are a guide to normal adverage content , as for green colouring in peas i think thats first year secondary education on plants life cycle obtaining energy from the sun and storing it as starch this starch is a green colouration also known as chlorophyll  i hope that answers your question if not the internet is a great tool  

 

naw sorry it dont and just shows how much that yi know what yir talking about when yi ave to search the internet for it as i could have done it from the start insteadf of asking you

[OLDYELLOW]

http://www.elook.org/nutrition/grains/6577.html

[jimmy white]

must go for red chaq hen on this one   nutritional value, is more than just the colour of their droppings ,,,,,, if you eat plenty beetroot , you might have a fright when going to the toilet ;D,, same as when you feed hormoform , the droppings will be a red colour , if i had green droppings  ;D ;D  i would be in hospital ;D ;D,, but the gist being different grains will produce slightly different colouring , some grains of any year can hold a different moisture content , of the same grains another year, then theres grains that will contain more fibre,,,,,feeding on ,say maples will produce larger droppings than say,, feeding barley,,  so different feeding can produce slightly different colour and size of droppings, but can see sammy,s point , during the racing season we would plainly like to see ,good firm droppings with a white" walls icecream" topping ;D

[Guest IB]

I thought dropping colour was determined by what the bird ate. For example if the bird is scoffing a lot of hormoform, they'll be reddish?. After eating greens, they tend to be bluish-green, and I've noticed barley in the mix does the same.

 

And I've thought any green colour would be principally down to bile, the digestive juice for fat, so a high fat diet might produce greenish droppings? Then again, a lot of bile might be produced to counter infection, so green might be a sign of trouble?

 

I don't think much can be read into how the droppings look.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jimmy white]

i would agree ib,  that what the bird eats can determine the colour to a certain extent ,, but as long as you know what your feeding , you would expect to see the droppings accordingly,,[ under normal circumstances ], but when green in the droppings [after normal feeding] would indicate to me , that not all was right, so maybe the one part i would disagree on,,,is that you can tell a lot from the droppings    i dont know if ive explained myself very well here   

[Roland]

I think one is also missing a couple or more of other things that affect the colour, condition - for want of a better word - . I.e Like TIME dropped. Weather. change of diet etc. etc. Droppings at say 4 in the morning will be totally differnt than 4 in afternoon etc.

[greenlands]

I think one is also missing a couple or more of other things that affect the colour, condition - for want of a better word - . I.e Like TIME dropped. Weather. change of diet etc. etc. Droppings at say 4 in the morning will be totally differnt than 4 in afternoon etc.

Totally agree mate.

 

 

[jimmy white]

I think one is also missing a couple or more of other things that affect the colour, condition - for want of a better word - . I.e Like TIME dropped. Weather. change of diet etc. etc. Droppings at say 4 in the morning will be totally differnt than 4 in afternoon etc.

 

yes,, i would agree with that also roland

[Roland]

Golly can't believe some of these posts.

Was feeding Barly / wheat, a kittle maize. Linseed tib bits a little sometimes. Most droppings in the afternoon Nut brown etc. some green.

Added Tic beans... same.

Now fully tic beans  and mostly green, which will be till system settles again. (will be for around 3 weeks unless gets cold, then will add Carbs to give them inner heat).

Two tone geen slime even with mixed in white. No worries, as this may be one of umpteen reasons. Definately no probles, and certainly no call fo, for a vet.

Check the tempretures for starers etc. etc.

[harky]

Golly can't believe some of these posts.

Was feeding Barly / wheat, a kittle maize. Linseed tib bits a little sometimes. Most droppings in the afternoon Nut brown etc. some green.

Added Tic beans... same.

Now fully tic beans  and mostly green, which will be till system settles again. (will be for around 3 weeks unless gets cold, then will add Carbs to give them inner heat).

Two tone geen slime even with mixed in white. No worries, as this may be one of umpteen reasons. Definately no probles, and certainly no call fo, for a vet.

Check the tempretures for starers etc. etc.

 

WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THERE ROLAND. MY BIRDS ARE IN TOP CLASS CONDITION AND FED ON BEANS. MAPLES, TARES AND THE ODD PEANUT AND THEIR DROPPINGS ARE HARD AND ROUND :)

[Diamond dave]

Thank you all for your contributions.  The thread has got a little bit sidetracked into the colour of the droppings when my interest is for the nutritional values of the food. I am particularly interested in what foods have a high fat content to feed to 600mile pigeons - surely you wouldn't send to such a race just feeding barley would you?...................

[OLDYELLOW]

hi fats are in linseed hemp canary seed black rapeseed , hulled sunflowers , peanuts