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ok mate cheers will have to see who i know lol Cheers Lindsay

Any reason you cant buy Alum over the counter in England, Or Scotland?

Anyone know where to get my hands on either Alum, or Aqueous Iodine?

so where are you expected to train your pigeons

I would give them 2 days to settle and then i would get them out as often as possible, once a day is enough. Generally the first day any new birds into a loft very rarely eat for the first day. DO NOT AND I MUST STRESS DO NOT WORRY ABOUT STRAINS!! Van Loon, Janssen, Meaulamen, De Klak, Hofken, Vandenbeele, Sherlackens ect never worried about strains and you'll find alot of the Belgians and Dutch show no interest in strains, just pigeons from winning lines is what you need, they could be from any strains.

I know a fancier who bought the real best lines a couple of years before Pallet or Louella where even thought off at Van Lints, and they made a big impact, and still are.

Im a realist, as a spurs fan theres no chance!!

Any information on when the majority of these young birds will be ready may increase the bidding, as its getting closer to the season, and many will not want youngsters too late.

personally i would say there destined to be cold, the idea with pigeons is to build up a natural immunity, and at 24-25 days old to have respiratory problems sounds to me its starting how it could go on.

welcome back sue

Wonder if anyone can help, i got in touch with the RPRA, they said i need to transfer any IHU rings with the IHU, i then emailed the IHU, and have waited a good few days and still haven't received a reply, anyone know how i can get my hands on a IHU transfer?

You'll be surprised Roland, many say they didnt believe but many top performers named there pigeons by there colour of there eye like Albert Marcellis great cock the 'Geeloger', and why the Janssen Bros preferred the White eyed pigeons, Van Breeman also spoke on the subject and Vermeyen of Antwerp was also one of Belgiums best, and believed in eyesign as even a certain theory was named after him the Vermeyen ring, and as you mentioned Van Reet, you will notice alot of Vermeyen goes right back into there family, when his grandfather purchased them, i believe when Syefs grandfather died at the entire clearance Staf bought 3 half brothers all from the same Vermeyen hen and destroyed the competition with these cocks. It opens the can on did Van Reet know anything on eyesign, since his grandfather bought from Belgiums great eyesign expert?? But thats going off topic

Puerto Rico

A Carry on from an interesting topic posted the other night here is some words use might find useful, would be great if this could be made a sticky?? Stamkoppel- Basic Pair Stamduivin - Basic Hen Stamdoffer - Basic Cock Grootvader - Grandfather Grootmoeder - Grandmother Grootouders - Grandparents Nazten - Offspring Voorouders - Ancestors Stamkaart -Pedigree Afstamming - Orgin/ Pedigree Duivin - Hen Doffer - Cock Jaarling - Yearling Jonge Duif - Young Bird Oude Duif - Old Bird Ras - Strain Inteelt - Inbreeding Kruisen - Crossbreeding Stam - Family Verwant - Related Kweeker - Breeder Kweekhok - Stockloft Nestduif - Cock or hen raced natural Vroeg jong - early bred Zomer jong - Summer Bred Laat jong - Late Bred Geschelpt - refers to colour chequer Malie - refers to colour chequer Tieger - refers to colour chequer Kras - refers to colour chequer Blauw (Blauwband) - refers to colour blue bar Vaal - refers to colour Mealy Vos - refers to colour red Witpen - refers to colour white flight Ooievaar - refers to colour 'Ooievaar' is dutch for stork so a kind of whitish bird Schalie - refers to colour slatey Bont or Bonte - refers to colour Pied, bird with white feathers Sproet - refers to colour bird with white speckles on head Donkere - refers to colour dark chequer Grijs - refers to colour grizzle Schimmel - refers to colour grizzle Geschift or Schift - refers to colour pencil blue Driebander - refers to colour Blue with 3 bars on the wings Licht(e) - refers to colour Licht is a light chequer hen, Lichte is a light chequer cock Witoog - refers to colour of the eye - pigeon with white eyes Geeloog/ geeloger - refers to colour of the eye- pigeon with yellow eye Klein(e) - refers to size, Klein refers to small hen, Kleine refers to small cock Grote - refers to size a big cock. Leervlucht, lapvlucht - toss training Losplaats/vlucht - release station Eenhoksrace - One loft race Weduwschap - Widowhood only cocks Weduwnaar - Widowhood cock Weduwduivin - Hen of a widowhood cock Dubbel Weduwschap - Double Widowhood Teletekstduif - Pigeon that was on tv as it won in first 10 of an NPO race Aangewezen - Nominated birds onaangewezen - non- nominated birds Navluchten - Autumn races Algemeen Generaal - Overal champion youngbirds, old birds, nominated and non nominated Kring - Combine (competition of some clubs together) Rayon - Competition of some combines together Afdeling - competitions of some Rayons together Coefficient - the result of a calculation for championships, Prize x 100 divided by entry

Stamkoppel- Basic Pair Stamduivin - Basic Hen Stamdoffer - Basic Cock Grootvader - Grandfather Grootmoeder - Grandmother Grootouders - Grandparents Nazten - Offspring Voorouders - Ancestors Stamkaart -Pedigree Afstamming - Orgin/ Pedigree Duivin - Hen Doffer - Cock Jaarling - Yearling Jonge Duif - Young Bird Oude Duif - Old Bird Ras - Strain Inteelt - Inbreeding Kruisen - Crossbreeding Stam - Family Verwant - Related Kweeker - Breeder Kweekhok - Stockloft Nestduif - Cock or hen raced natural Vroeg jong - early bred Zomer jong - Summer Bred Laat jong - Late Bred ^^^Just some words that Mr Ad Schaerlaeckens suggest are important words to read on Belgian and Dutch pedigrees

IB, all those words are Flemish, which is Belgian Dutch. So they are understandable in both Belgium and Holland.

if its young birds im in the belief as much schooling as possible, even if its only at 12 miles

lmao they done time travel,

Craig, was speaking to a friend of mine and he suggested Duiven was a hen and Duiver was a cock

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CLIVE, YOU KEPT THAT QUIET MATE

I think your right craig,

What did i do to help, i blooded loaded all those laughing noses onto lorries for weeks, so they could get to sainsbury stores down south

Sorry deb, i have a lack of knowledge on this subject, and never realised you could hatch eggs in a brooder, i thought they were used just for rearing young, thanks you for enlightening me, im guessing your brooder could be something simiular to this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INCUBATOR-FAN-ASSISTED-12v-25-Egg-Hatcher-/170613781814?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Poultry&hash=item27b95fb536#ht_2252wt_1178 Thanks again

Hi deb, was looking for more information on incubators and not brooders, sorry,