danny why do you keep making an ass of yourself on open forum trying to say these guys dont sell there best a mate of mine has birds from there best and one of there best hens was sold on pipa and i handdled her and she was class she was called shady lady what a class hen it was she was sold with other top birds these guys give birds to all our fed sales and club sales these guys go out there way to get the best and god it cost a lot of money the macaloneys know how to do there homework they have the best but they are always looking to even inprove on that thats why they have been at the top for so long