Tony C

They're getting on for 4 weeks old now. A cracking litter speck.

lol pickled....hic!

Wrapped up in with me fish & chips ;D

Scrubs ;D

Wasn't there a pigeon withdrawn from the last online show? At the same time wasn't there someone sending out p/m's asking people to vote for their pigeon?

Well done Beanz

I've read about it somewhere, think it might have been on the pipa website. I believe you also have to mix a bit of vinegar in to help it dissolve. Personally I wouldn’t trust giving it to them this way.

Have you tried the kennals in Wickford.

Anyone use or have used Propolis? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propolis

Also confusing when text is added to someones quote ;D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7112716.stm

Hope you had a good'un Ray.........hic .....

Your playing with fire if you go down this road dogeon, I’ll tell you why I think this. The drugs you use to treat against this will also kill the good bacteria as already stated by others. There are some virus's/bacteria that your pigeons may be hosting that the drug wont touch, by treating you will effectively be giving the chance to let these virus's/bacteria multiply uncontested. Be careful with anti-biotics, you could be doing more harm than good!

Meditech. I buy it when at the Blackpool show.

Against Candida/Fungal infections 1/4 teaspoon to 4 pints for 5 days (wouldn't race them till 7 days after last day of treatment)

With talk like that jimmy you could be in the frame for the next England managers job ;D

Congrats. Special times

http://www.herbots.be/loft/news/content.asp?id=41 Zoontjens Food Feeding the pigeons is a chapter at its own at Zoontjens residence. The feeding system and the mixtures of both father Jan and son Wal Zoontjens became famous all over the world. The food firm Beyers produces two Zoontjens mixtures, also known as ‘Zoontjens Yellow’ and ‘Zoontjens Blue’. Wal always keeps closely in touch with Beyers to keep improving the nutritional value of the mixtures. They are a light digestible mixture (Yellow) – consisting of wheat, white dary, cardi, vetches, lentils, sorgho, katjang idjoe, paddy and buckwheat – and a heavier mixture (Blue) consisting of maize, pies and soy. Father Jan is the founder of these mixtures. Wal feeds his widowers as follows: every morning and evening all widowers get a hand full of the light mixture. Depending what race comes up, in short distance the cockbirds get the heavier mixture one or two nights. In middle distance racing that is two or three nights. In one day long distance racing three or four nights. The quantity of this heavier mixture also depends on the race. Wal makes sure they still have a healthy appetite the last day before basketing and sometimes in the morning some more heavier mixture and less light mixture is given to keep them eating until the moment they are basketed. For a one day long distance race they must have half or three quarters of their crop full with food. A hand full of Super Energy from Beyers is given for some extra replenishment. The last two nights the one day long distance cocks get 5 grams of an own made mixture consisting of paddy (50%) – tovo (20%) – bantam seed (used by fishermen, 7%) – candy seed (7%) and P40 (7%). Often this feeding mixture is criticized as being too heavy. However the many years of top results have proven the feeding system to be just. Only very seldom the pigeons return home fatigue and many times they still have energy left to make an extra victory round after a heavy one day long distance race. After weaning, the youngsters get the breeding mixture for some weeks and afterwards a mixture of 1/3 Breeding, 1/3 Zoontjens Yellow and 1/3 Barley. On races above 300 km the barley is left out the last days.

If its the mix I'm thinking of the base mix is referred to as 'blue', the lighter mix is referred to as 'yellow'. I found both had very good quality grains. The 'blue' has a very high % of maize and hardly any small grains or seeds in at all. On its own I found it too beefed up, I'd suggest you buy the lighter yellow as well along with a depurative mix and mix accordingly.

Ordinary vinegar. As for the amount well its pretty scientific lol 1 glug to 2 gallons(or there about) I'd guess about 20mls to a gallon.

At that dosage it wouldn't hurt them, on the contrary it actually helps keep them clear of Candida if they do drink it. I put vinegar in their bath water, keeps the lice away just as good.

I think the odds are greater of a hen that old in someones loft has done something in its time.

Make your reputation on the old birds and you'll cash in on the young birds

I think 10p per mile per pigeon is good value for those that have only a small team, works out pretty expensive though if you have a large team that needs to be trained 2 or 3 times a week. I'd charge the 10p per mile but would give the big senders a little something back

New additions to Speckled Hen Lofts, 8 Jack Russell pups