The Havering, County of Essex, Essex Central, South of the Thames Feds were liberated together at 08:15 out of Ripon as this was an Amal race. The West Essex Fed were at Wetherby and liberated at 08:00. The distance between Ripon and Wetherby for us north roaders is 14 mile. There's been no reports of any Scottish pigeons down here that I know of. Hope this helps.