Roland

90% managerment, and 10% a GOOD pigeon!

Yep a good job and very practical and sensible loft, in more ways than one. I always advocate that folks go to a demolishon site, and you we get a lot of good stuff next to nowt. Have built 3 like that. One was ock beans a Red Cedar, and another a lot of pine... all for next to nowt... Now I advocate that you just make a framework, bolted is best, than cover all over, sides roof etc. with wire mesh (1/2 inch) off the ground of course, on bricks, kerbs, anything stable that won't rot. And wire that in too so nowt can get under. Sliding doors. Then a false roof sloping down to the front, that is a foot alround bigger. THEN SIDES I have interchanging vents, which I swap easierly for Plastic cladding. Nice and airy, and water proof, and practical.

Perhaps one ought to take stock and revaluate what is being posted. I.B. for instance, it is all very well searching the net and copying, then pasting things for all to read. 995 of us don't even understand the gist, let alone the meaning and certainly not the very basis and fundemental of what is written ... and one would find it very hard, time consuming - why folks spend years at Uni or labs learning! Indeed I.B no disrespect, but do you actually and really understand any of the things you find and paste? It would take yonks of years for the layman. Here is what a very good Vet / Doc posted me, and I believe this puts it in a nut shell for all to understand ... whether one wants to believe or not, or even act, is obviously another matter. This is part of the reply..... As for Paratyphus I know some will say it is controversial but cull is the only way to eradicate it in a loft. Personally I feel that injection is just another way to make money. We have a guy here working on salmonella in Chickens, and he told me that it needs to be a live vaccine for the variant of salmonella you got. How many actually know they have salmonella and how many think they got it. Its pointless guessing. I feel all this illness is a mutation of PMV as paratyphus will affect the breeding first. How many get good hatches birds go sick and they become a vet and say its paratyphus. You are doing everything right, my source says sanitation is the best way in combating salmonella. A little bleach in the drinker or virkon will kill it in your own loft as will washing the loft out regulary. End of ............................................................. he also asked why do people jab, to prevent, or use antibiotics for a Virus .... Indeed what viagrant / strain are they inoculating against? Then different species have different Viarants again ...

Was one of the best, funny, person I ever read. Spinksy use to have his jokes on his Site, as did a few others. I used to do a few jokes a night and was contemplating doing a stand up rutine. I wrote stacks and pinched a bit here and there like the rest do.... Had stacks on CD and what not... lost the lot now it seems... Butif any one comes across with 'Harvey Liar' don't miss the cahnce to read, you will split your sides I promise. And please pass on to me of course. As I once posted I got shot of 1000's because of .... a dozen reasons, but the main one never used 'Stupidity'! Still remember loads of course....

Well John you are echoing my sentiments and expierence as I have posted. Even the 1 in three, which I harp on about.... too many didn't know it even exists, and treat willy nilly, Why I ever donated birds etc. May do now, but have posted times what I did, about the same as you. I recomend Vykron used regularly. The main problem is Clear Both, the birds and then the loft.

Don't work for me lol.... spend all day making cuppa's and going to the loo ;D ;D

SO what!!! AND your' point being is ? !!1 :-/ :-/ :o

Thought so when i see your post first off... then thought 'Hey hang on a minute, the hawk(s) Peregines hit down ward and then come upwards, so that may well be why they attack and leave off at the last split second. They don't actually hit why on the downwards swoop, but swoop up a mite! Am I correct? Think so.

Was posted by Karl the owner........ Karl Site Admin Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 2116 Location: Edmonton - Canada Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some areas of Germany have had lots of pigeon losses due to peregrine falcon attacks, especially in the Black Forest region. A number of fanciers in that area spray a red die for marking livestock on the underside of the birds' wings with excellent results. One fancier who lost only 1 bird all of last year to a falcon describes how the falcon attacks and then turns off just before it would hit the bird. He even promised that he will record this in a video. Let's hope that this materializes. ..................................................................................................................................... Let's hope so too!

Look again then Spiner... Think you will find I am right. But can't be bothered to read up on it again lol... never wore glasses then lol ;D

Now we're cutting to the chase. Simply put... get shot, unless you want y/b'd & yearlings to race as 4 year old or more. Was in contact with many, Gordon etc. etc. and Johnny 11. Yes Vic, just a little while back I posted 'Why not contact your mucker Johnny 11. First class service, competative priced and a whole lab and Top boys to back him up. Seems you did remember you remebered him lol. Any way 3 years is about right. Sanitarian / Cleanse and cleanse loft! Bleach, burn and Vykon etc. and hope and a wing and a prayer. Remember just a first shrt months ago when I said abit about Phaptyhoid etc. was shot down and smilingly rideculed via a couple... Like I say, too many don't even realise it exists, that they have carriers and treat for ... But often they start out as a Secondarily illness, and mock the parent desiese. Samonella / Phar are the biggest danger to our sport and are rife. You'd better believe it.

Rose RPRA rules state - I believe that there must be four different lofts sending to make a Marking station.... so if only two, then they are breaking the rules big time... and are applying the thin of a wedge.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nochance of them standing down and getting others to take up posts... let alone one that means 'Work' of a Friday as to proping up the bar... Because ALL those willing to work are already on the comittee! But then I hope I'm wrong.

Alf Baker's saying that eh Jimmy. Not many had great sucess from his birds... though a few Belguims did, and even a National...

Was a case, though it was boo hooed strongly as rediculous via the Pro ET brigade, a few years back, where a fellow realised that when he press his remote 'Open' on his garage door it affected his ET. Open was a minute slower... Closed was a minute faster. Now a few very good sauces swore this was true, and the clock makers had to review and change many clock. The pro brigade swear they were recalled for another reason. Never bothered me,but was interested reading the threads. Yes have seen the reason why some were recalled, things added, changed etc. But never saw the reason given for that one when they went back. Knew a lad, 25 years back, that was hacking big time from his schools computer. THis was when they were often the world's leader in discovering things in space etc. etc. the class room had to be locked up when a responcible teacher wasn't attending. Knew the computer etc. not which lad. He sent driving lincenses, Furniture etc. etc. all paid for and above board... well was no come back .... He said 'Nothing' in technoligy was fool proof, and as quick as they fix... another will unfix. Just look at the 'Cloning / Cheating with the banks, the 'Hole in the wall etc. etc. 99.99999 will never be interested, and 99.999999 that are, won't be able... so pretty safe, as long as no one is allowed near their own birds and a different two as many times as possible in the night - random is best - then it is pretty much safe I'm sure.

Was - in the RPRA commisioned findings, where it was quite feesible, and was done where a 'Dead Bird' could win a race. Simple really, but like I say, most clubs, concerns get wise sooner than later in most cases. They have quite a bit of teething now done, and most have constantly been suprised and then had to update. That is surely a fact of life in every walk of life. the real worry is when we state silly reasons and Why certain people spout such things! That is simply inviting trouble. Regardless of 'Pro or Anti, when we get such statement as To date, I have never heard of anyone cheating using ETS, however have heard of and witnessed myself, people cheating using race rubbers Once again, it,s anti ETS attempting to damage it,s use, I have used it for 3 years now, and would not want to return to conventional timing All the best for 2009 whichever clock you choose to use ... ets, sorry Sapper that is when the door is left a jar. It will be beaten and some will cheat, sure as eggs are eggs... Let's just hope that club members, and the Markers etc. stay vigalent and alway have one eye out for anything untoward. As of yet it would take TWO in Cahoots, or a laxidaical club, to cheat.

Mis - read Allbear... Sorry I thought you meant as part of a cureas posted meant as. So in affect am right to some degree as 'Part of'... !

Won't be eradicated... mainly because 90% when they have it never even realise and treat willy nilly for any and everything else. Polio innocuaction was / is the most sucessful jab there was / is. Done such a good job, that many believed it was no longer around and now, and was thus a needless exercise. So in some places it was stopped being done.... very quickly learnt that it is still rife and prevalent! Likewise with these Paras etc. Samonella etc. I don't believe that Baytril is of any use either.

had the very same thoughts just earlier. Thought that if I'd won it, I would have put it up for auction for the sites benefit. having said that, I see no reason why both propositions aren't viable. like the 'Next to Donate' could well be for the benefit of Richard. But then I am giving away and odnating other fanciers' birds... which I think I could get rather good at lol ;D ;D ;D

Believe you will find that the Rat Tunnel lives in Aussie land, where the men are fast ... and sheep are scared lol ;D ;D

Yes in reality, Richard has a very difficuly task, long and labourious, has to be very patience, understanding, and have a op on a tongue regularly - through biting it. And then has to abide snide, uncurteous remarks, hang if does and dang if doesn't, and yet still puts his money where his mouth is. So I'd go along with that!

My wife sat down on the couch next to me as I was flipping the channels. She asked, 'What's on TV?' I said, 'Dust.' …. And then the fight started... ==================================================== My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming anniversary. She said, 'I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 200 in about 3 seconds.' I bought her a scale. ……… And then the fight started... ==================================================== When I got home last night, my wife demanded that I take her someplace expensive... so, I took her to a gas station... And then the fight started... ==================================================== After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later. The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'. So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair. She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she processed my Social Security application. When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office. She said, 'you should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too.' ……… And then the fight started... ==================================================== My wife and I were sitting at a table at my high school reunion, and I kept staring at a drunken lady swigging her drink as she sat alone at a nearby table. My wife asked, 'Do you know her?' 'Yes,' I sighed, 'She's my old girlfriend. I understand she took to drinking right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear she hasn't been sober since.' 'My God!' says my wife, 'who would think a person could go on celebrating that long?' …. And then the fight started... ==================================================== I rear-ended a car this morning. So, there we were alongside the road and slowly the other driver got out of his car. You know how sometimes you just get soooo stressed and little things just seem funny? Yeah, well I couldn't believe it ... he was a DWARF!!!He stormed over to my car, looked up at me, and shouted, 'I AM NOT HAPPY!' So, I looked down at him and said, 'Well, then which one are you?' And then the fight started... ==================================================== THE BROKEN LAWN MOWER When our lawn mower broke and wouldn't run, my wife kept hinting to me that I should get it fixed. But, somehow I always had something else to take care of first, the truck, the car, playing golf - always something more important to me. Finally she thought of a clever way to make her point. When I arrived home one day, I found her seated in the tall grass, busily snipping away with a tiny pair of sewing scissors. I watched silently for a short time and then went into the house. I was gone only a minute, and when I came out again I handed her a toothbrush. I said, 'When you finish cutting the grass, you might as well sweep the driveway.' The doctors say I will walk again, but I will always have a limp. Moral to this story: Marriage is a relationship in which one person is always right, and the other is the husband. .... and don't you guys forget it!

Yes have used it... be very very careful. A quick format for 'Poison Toxins' if over used. Very little goes a very long way. Could throw your season and next right off track if careless... I don't use now!

I know the answer 8) 8) smug me eh! ;D ;D