plenty of "gold from old" must beg to differ budgie ma wee bird chased your doo up the road from the "gold cup" sire was 13 years old when he sired her. ;) sitting on two l/breds the now at 16.
have had "HAWKS ARE KILLING ALL OUR SONGBIRDS"on my car the wifes and my mothers for years,amazing the amount of people who will read the sticker at traffic lights etc,a must for everyone.
we are all human alf,had a lovely wee latebred griz cock,scored bovingdon snfc,clocked just off eastbourne result snfc ma old da said a good yin to put by for gold cup 2011, i sent him to ypres,never seen the wee doo,we live and learn.
great point alf,the legend jock allan asked me years ago if i thought my birds required the training for the last national that i was giving them??? i then asked him the question and was told after a long season most of the birds going to the last race had done enough roadwork,i took his advice and have a good batting average at the last water race. ;) ;)
i take your point davy but short racing especially youngbirds(40-70 miles)and when in a favoriable geographical position in club,i can see no good in this multiple clocking,only causes unrest in clubs imo,if still using a clock would you time 10-20 birds at short distance ???? i think not,i have always been for ets,but used properly and sportingly.imo.
needing a wee rule there davie first three and your pooler,short youngbird racing <_< see another club where a chap had the first 36 birds in the club at 40 miles,no good for the pigeon sport imo.