alf i flew in the lanarkshire fed coastal race in 2000 where the convoy was over 3000 birds,last years l/f open had less than 1000 doos,the feds that convoyed to the coast in the past with l/f are now going with the national,i still think at 75 pence to go with the national is great value imo. :) and going with the national is also twice as exciting. ;)