all my live my dd had them since 1967, so when i was born in 1980 it was just the thing for me to do i race with my dad in partnership, but my dad says that next year will be is final year and as he is hoping to retire to a bungalow, i have to decide if i will race on my own, when he finishes, i have the stock loft at my own house it may be get rid of stock and turn it injto a race loft of my own in 2012, ony time will tell.