The diffo between good and bad is the pennines and the southern uplands . If young birds get hit on the far side of them your in for a hard day. You getfar better returns with bit south in it up and over. .Appleby used to be great but last few seasons ive had terrible lot hawked at appleby and exsperienced birds not returning . St boswells otterburn and tow law have been graveyards for me here most other lib sites on east have offered descent returns