Have read both your posts john/ Andy I was on the snfc committee at the time wee voted for the 1 st inland nat and it was said it would be the ruin of the snfc and what it stood for and I admit I voted in favour of the inland I wish I could turn the clock back some might not like what iam about to say but here goes the snfc was started for LONG distance (over the water) now wee have two inland and the more wee allow this there could be a situation when wee end up with more middle distance members than distance and if put to a vote wee could end up with more inland races than distance let's get back to basics combine racing inland and nat for the distance as for the shu running the snfc the snfc are the founder members of the shu the 1st club formed was the snfc so I can't see that happen if you are feeling let down by the guy,s leading the snfc then put your self up for the jobs but even if wee don't like it they are trying there best yes agree they might need to take note of what the members want JMO