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depends either supported mesh for a false floor and for a base got to be 3/4 inch ply or chipboard if a false floor some ply to sit on top to protect the base and ease of cleaning by pulling out

Am back :devil: :devil:

Good stuff

there is always the obvious colours from pairs , but white lack of pigmentation can appear in any pairing and more so in a inbred family , then you have the surprise colours which aren't so obvious some throw backs and some just dilute or recessive colourations

black w/f hen and blue cock = same possible with cheq with wfs or without , and blue wfs mealy cock and dark cheq pied = same possible with red pieds or without pied mealy pieds

take it easy and get yersen right healths got to come first

Very strange never had out like that before , old hen or a young hen ??

Bit cold in sunny Scarborough but the sun coming through Hope you all have a great day

Times flying by this year anyone else think it's going fast ??? , soon be racing

Have fun Pat

Cheers mate all going near enough to plan so quite happy Also did corn run today be ok until April now I hope lol

I think most lofts will have related birds unless constantly chopping and changing Get some photos up be there like peas in a pod

Welcome to Pigeon Basics hope you enjoy the site

have 2 brothers and a sister from same year in there at moment and a few related , another couple of brothers and cousin be quiet a few related with different variations to see what works what don't bit like making a curry plenty of ingredients in the mix it's getting them right I guess

Yes you would breed birds with no pigment however there is always the exception to the rule which would be a throw back ask Tractor boy from his whites he gets full colours and stuff

Spring has arrived in the Kettlestring lofts 3 hatched today

I don't shop there tis a pointless exercise as they never have anything in stock I go 20 minutes to Malton and get everything I want from BLeefes & sons , probably same amount of time it would take me to go to town and get nowt .

Old photo but just to give an idea two red cocks and Dark cock all red 45 on top row The two reds were lightly raced to 358 miles 2nd row 2nd cock same sire as 3 x 1st clubs 3rd 10th 13th fed up to 470 miles , just different dam who flew Bourge , plenty related to card winners as I breed around the winners

No bother Stan put them up I know you boughts some crackers off me the last few years Including the pencil you won the young cocks show with

Cheers Bernie Some really nice birds amongst these

My first round for sale containing a mixture of strains ( Deweerdts Ken Anbys Pau winner and George Humpry's / Van Braunes / Kirkpatrick / Janssen Marselles ) that fly well from 345 miles to 512 miles . These include Bushaerts via red 45 down from little black and red 20 ( sister to Pluto ), Van Braunes one cock crossed with Marselles bred for Dover and Dover of Hetton Fed has 3 x 1sts up to 470 miles 3rd fed , 10th fed , 13th fed this bird was lightly raced some via a cock same way bred as this un available, same way bred are been sent to Holland .The Kirkpatricks which are crossing well with my Janssen and Van Braunes , nothing kept pure ,included in these are ybs via 2 Cocks same way bred as 1st Clermont 10th fed , 2 via same way bred as the 3 x 1sts cock Most priced at £30 each or I'll do a few kits of 6 at £120 ybs be ready around beginning of April thanks for looking

piebald be more appropriate guess some of you just aint having any of that broke back mountain stuff in yer loft lol , but always been gaypied when carrying more none pigmented feathers that what me great uncle told me and questioned it then lol

thought they'd be loafer lol

Can safely say tis a very old one google it

just damage to fencing another panel gone and gates at side of house down other than that not too bad loft intact which is always the main worry Hope everyone else has faired better