OLDYELLOW

van loons are catryesse x Jansens , the silver shadows are the later crossed with Tourniers

yes thats a cracking bird

homing pigeons , hopefully the type that races

well if the birds are getting filled up with water then there parents are giving too much water , usualy this is a sign of canker imo , lets say they needed more salt you add it to the water there still going to drink even more water still , they need to pump the ybs with plenty of protein not water

my water doesnt contain any salt its fresh clorinated water , not brakish water ??? salt is actualy poisonous in large quanitys , pigeons should get enough natural salt through the mineral pickstones we give them

giving salt to wet feeders would make the problem worse , salt creates thirst hence why pubs used to give salted peanuts on the bar so you drink more , birds that pump ybs by giving too much water create wet boxes and inferior ybs , i find that it's usualy inexperienced breeders that do this mainly yearlings , i find that giving a feed pot in there box usualy sorts this out rather than using electolytes

I have only ever bought one bird through this site , had no problems what so ever , arranged to collect it paid for it however i feel buyers have the right to be annonimous and pm bids should be accepted , however i do feel that the pm bids should be added to the thread minus users name before end of sale and on completion of a sale the pm bid to be copied and pasted as each message is time stamped . It's also important that if your conducting an auction you should be onsite for at least an hour before to conclude the sale . Sellers : Should ensure that payments are recieved before birds sent out , if theres problems with a sale where people have decided not to go through with the sale , thats the right of the buyer , yes it waistes time and is unfortunate , a contract of buying is only finalised when payment is recieved and bird or item recieved . The best way is to get a paypal account and get buyers to send funds dirrect , this is by far the quickest means for both seller and buyer . Auctions : members should ensure that when bidding they have the funds to buy no birds should be sent until the funds have cleared and a message from the auctoneer has been made . With ybs swaps ectra this is a bit of a grey area as most good lofts will select the ybs and if see fit two ybs could easily become one as the vendor / swapper may remove any inferior bird . On many occasions i've actualy given an extra bird free of charge . I'ts important for sellers to tell admin or the site moderators of anyone who is trying buying and not paying as these offenders shouldnt be allowed to bid / buy birds as unfair on others , so if you have anything unresolved please pass on to THEFIFER via the pm system , the site cant be blamed for how others conduct themselves and sales falling through thats between the seller and buyer. On that note this thread will now be locked .

i only use after racing on return from race , or after treatment where body loss has occured

if money was no object id be in the sun complaining about crap food watching a few rollers lol

yes i use IE but use photobucket , you might need to reduce the file size

buy some fullers earth cat litter

add bowls and nesting material = they'll build nests = then mate then eggs will come it's nature thought you had just got them ??

with fancy birds they dont like alot of the bigger beans and pulses ,they prefer small maples , mung beans , tares , popcorn maize , paddy rice and wheat and dari and a very small amount of linseed

what brand is your first mix ???? sunflower seeds will put fat on birds hence why there use sparingly in mixes , what type of pigeon are you feeding ???

yours are too young they wont pair till they mature

down to nature they'll naturaly pair when ready thats true in a loft full but not if hens were on there own lol , but as you say have known spare hens to hatch there eggs as long as a cock present

simple maths you say you have 3 cocks one hen and one more sex unknown well as i said if that be a hen you'l have a spare cock plus 2 pairs you could always keep spare cock in another section and after first round split and repair

R.I.P may our thought be with his family and friends at this sad time

if it lays eggs you'l be in luck and have a spare cock

aye cock and hen together two cocks wont lay eggs two hens will tho but wont hatch

nice story of a great bird Derek

thought he sold up ???? is it a empty loft film ???

your right there , also check out local timber yards i got my loft base made with similar sized tanalised boards

use last img code

i asked first lol