jimmy white

could be right there andy, taking first 4 in gold cup 550 miles approx 5000 birds was only one of his many results

definately a hard one that , many of these old pioneers we have to thank,, dr anderson did a lot for scotland, but there are many

great stuff , these birds saved many lifes

;D ;D jimmy white goal keeper ,,,fifer centre forward, clockie refferee ;D ;D ;D ;D

hope all goes well tomorrow,, best of luck to all

;D another great flier over many many years is charlie and russel woof of new ollerton notts wooff bros and son and his brother in staindrop, some of the best pigeons i ever had came from them

havent got pigeon paper, but was it paddy the war hero and dicken medal winner theres some great true stories of these war pigeons, im sure i seen a picture of paddy at fifers exhibition

;D ;D ;D good o hear their going good style, should imagine it would be a wee bit differant in oregan than here ;D ;D ;D, bet mine was born on april the 1st ;D ;D ;D cheers to the barmy army ;D ;D ;D all the best hyacinth

agree with silver wings , there are times to rest them it all depends on the type of racing youve had, and how long your season is, and what sort of distance you want to try

;D ;D ;D a cracker that, even asking to be basket trained,,,, and straight from the nest pan too, krauth it with a cross, ;D,,,sorry cross it with a krauth, gaurineteed to win, itll,eat the others ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

might get some interesting reading on ivermectin [horse wormer] on page 3 on health under lice

i used to find that the widowhood cocks ate less at this time of the year and found that when i increased the peanuts they ate these, and drunk more [getting in to the distance now] im not sure about putting anything in the water on friday is a good thing as they may drink less, would be interested in other opinions

i would agree with shadow only i would do a 15 miler just to be carefull then 20 but once you start your better keeping them going, as they will stop ranging

;D ;D ;D tell ted his ybs are ready,westy,,,,,,but i cant get them on a sunday ;D ;D ;D its to busy ;D ;D ;D

another act of instinct is a pigeon never forgets,,they have a memory second to none i have had many aspects of this" memory"one of them a bird comming home after 6 years [never timed it in ;D ;D ;D]but have heard of them comming home a lot later than that

i would say pigeons are creatures of habit, i would flag them at the beggining of the season [with no training] with the loft doors closed, for say 15 mins then open the door and let them land, i would extend this to 45 mins with the door closed, once they "cottoned on"they would fly as long as the doors were closed,with just a reminder now and again [ widowhood cocks]they needed very little training, as they would have been trained plenty as ybs, i would rather see them do 45 mins to an hour freely, than force them down the road ,and put them through stress by basketing , travelling an hour, then them flying home in an hour, this would take approx 3 hours, when they could be in the loft resting after 1 hour with no stress

very interesting article,,,pigeons are naturally gregarious, and fly more confident in a batch, but if their trained at an early stage to have confidence flying solo, will definately benefit them even later in life, but i would only do this after a little experience, this would take time but would be worth it. the only thing i would say is ,if you are singling them up, make sure there is enough space between them, as they will take longer to clear, to begin with, if you put them up before the first one has cleared, they will then get in to the habit of flying round waiting on the next one going up, only my opinion

very interesting article indeed, it just goes to show how things can twist and turn

looks like as you said snowy, someone has had him in, and put elastic bands on his wings,,,but at least as soon as theve took them off hes headed home,good luck

exellent post young westy, says it all really :)

;D ;D ;D ;D weve caught him ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D thanks guys and gals ;D ;D

i think your thinking of 6 months westy, but as square peg says if their old enough to lay their old enough to rear :) :)hope things are going well j,w :)

;D ;D ;D when youve got them , theres allways the downs but when youve not got them,,,,you want them ;D ;D

:) great stuff mark ,,congrats.