jimmy white

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if birds are liberated in these conditions ,, they should be allmost able to go through any thing , it was ok this end ,, but something odd nowadays with homing birds :-/,,,,,its happened on good days ?

interesting ;D ;D ;D but doesnt tell you how many pigeon fanciers in the world ;D

the seasons seem all to pot,, last night here in the lothians [sunday] like a december night , cold, mist, rain the lot

good to see you back mate , hope things go well for you , you deserve it best of luck

;D ;D ;D sounds like alf??? if it is ,,another result like last week would be a great present,,,happy birthday ;D

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yes ,,,asap [but a good avian vet]

boooo,, ;D ;D ;D welle show em graig an mitch ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D must say dandydoo,, chat makes a great job of this , pity we dont get reports like that in one loft races in the uk ,,,maybe someday we will ;) and just to be polite , i hope you win a race ;D ;D ;D ;D [and we win two ;D ;D ;D] good luck ;D ;D ;D[only kidding ,its all good fun ]

yes,, the obstacles they have to contend with, from the basket to the loft are quite unbelievable ,,once they manage to clear the race point unscathed ,they,then have hawks ,wires guns ,even traffic on busy roads to contend with ,, its like their running the gauntlet every time but even with all of this , their marvelous things

took it up the road a bit this morning [weather a lot better than last night ;D] away up high and off,, would just like to know if bird got back safe

i completely agree with you, and certainly not blaming convoyers, race controllers etc , i beleive they do the best job poss for the birds , and often a thankless job ,but maybe didnt explain myself very well ,,,, the birds can hit obstacles on a perfectly good lib site,, if you see the welsh nat going up at penicuick , a fantastic site in a brilliant place [a big open playing field ] you couldnt get much better,,,,,but, you still see them hitting wires even telegraph poles , house tv aerials etc even 100 yds away from the transporter,so i beleive there are accidents at the racepoints we never here of same as the last post,,,, birds hitting the ground,,?? bottom teir usually get of first then as they go up each teir , but then , people will say,, then,, bottom teir best chance ,so the convoyers do their best ,but cant do the impossible

this is a simple true fact,,,,,,,and theres no argueing about it

cheq wt flight [ soaking wet,but bodily ok] in basket in house now, will lib tomorrow if the weathers a bit better ,,,,horrible night here

gb 06 L 22413 b bar hen gb 06 L 22435 b bar cock su,06 w 425 b cheq cock su o6 f 4554 b cheq cock

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my thoughts are it will happen ;D

yes roland if you are in an ideal loft position and a very good flier,, this can be done to sell birds ,so many firsts, duplications etc ,it looks good on paper when in fact if you look at the results properly youll soon see the best fliers [and their birds have to be cheaper :-/]

yes i can completely see your point ,, the birds are not daft,, they know what they want ,and when they want it

i agree with cricketer with due respect , for well trained pigeons to trap and be timed in manualy would never take me 17 secs a pigeon trapping straight on to a small landing board 6 inches broad ,dropping straight into a stall trap ,me standing right there , with the clock on a cord round my neck , i could time in ,in 5 secs ,,,prooved trapping is part of the race you must get the bird first ,and i am not for or against ets ,i would think this would be the least of my problems ,,getting the birds spot on ,would be my main aim

yip,,,a lot in what you say roland :) all birds carry a level of canker cocci, even worms,, but with good management this should not be a problem ,but i think ,the stresses we put the birds through can increase that level ,to an extent where it can become a problem [many years ago i didnt treat for anything, just kept the loft cleaned everyday, and clean water , very seldom had an ill bird and won a lot ;D] but i know treat for these things after advice from a good avian vet] the vet actually said what you said , but explained ",because we put them through unnatural stress [transporters ,racing ,training etc ]" he advised to treat periodically for these things , but very interesting post

very well done alf ,,things seem to be looking good ,and birds going great

really sad news ,, hope by this time, most of the birds are acc, for, and hope no one was injured